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Old 10-16-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

Hello,

What is the best play here?
Push accordingly to SNGPT, or push ATC to use the last FE you have?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t3440)
BB (t3100)
Hero (t1430)
MP (t5660)
CO (t1940)
Button (t4430)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero ???

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The Netherlands
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

I would never push ATC here.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

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I would never push ATC here.

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So you push accordingly to SNGPT?
Or do you push some -EV hands here?
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

It depends. Are the two in the blinds loose or tight? Is the table aggressive or might they give me a walk in my BB? Which regulars are there if any, and where are they sat? I need a bit more information than just stacks, position and 72o to make any decision.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

I definitely make some -ev pushes here.
72o seems just too bad.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

@ tigerite: BB is a regular, SB is unknown, table is not to aggressive, but I don't expect to get a walk in my blinds, MP is also a regular, CO and Button are unknown.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

72o is just worst hand, you can call random next hand on bb and it would be better ev play.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

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@ tigerite: BB is a regular, SB is unknown, table is not to aggressive, but I don't expect to get a walk in my blinds, MP is also a regular, CO and Button are unknown.

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Ok, given all that, then I'm unlikely to get a walk in my next blind because BB is to my left and will push very wide, correctly, from his SB. MP will be UTG so I don't care that much about him. However BB will also expect I'm pushing wide with 3.5BB and so will call quite wide here as well. MP again won't be too much of an issue with so many to act after him. I'll say I'd push about top 35%, but it depends on my image at the table as well as all of the above. Certainly not 72o.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

Oh and MP I believe will push quite a lot (say 25%?) if I don't push here, again correctly, which will improve my fold equity more than SNGPT allows for. This I would also factor into my decision.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: $33 Party: 3,5 BB UTG what is your range here?

Is there some free graphical chart out there on the internet which shows me what exactly 25%, 35%, 75% of our hands are?
I can only roughly estimate or open up an icm tool.
Anyone got something like that?
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