Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes Limit
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-01-2007, 09:00 AM
flavicolo flavicolo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2
Default Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

How do you usually play premiums hand from the blinds against TAA players? (I suppose that if a make a Re-raise, and bet on the flop, if he don't connect most of the time he will fold, and I want to keep him in the hands.
For example:

POKERSTARS GAME #12940912494: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/10/30 - 16:13:02 (ET)
Table 'Duponta' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Losicki ($40.40 in chips)
Seat 2: officepool12 ($9.80 in chips) 15/8/4.5(75 hands).
Seat 3: InJee ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Top Ute ($20.65 in chips)
Seat 5: tituschalas ($60.85 in chips)
Seat 6: jet40 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 7: mlpp81 ($8.05 in chips)
Seat 9: hobgoblin 67 ($32.85 in chips)
Seat 10: buzzardmeat2 ($26.45 in chips)
tituschalas: posts small blind $0.25
jet40: posts big blind $0.50 14/5/1.7 (180 hands)
dm78: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [ Ad As ]
mlpp81: folds
hobgoblin 67: folds
buzzardmeat2: folds
Losicki: folds
officepool12: raises $0.50 to $1
InJee: folds
Top Ute: folds
tituschalas: calls $0.75
jet40: folds
*** FLOP *** [ Kc Kd 2d ]
tituschalas: bets $0.50
officepool12: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [ Kc Kd 2d ] [ Qd ]
tituschalas: bets $1
officepool12: raises $1 to $2
tituschalas: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [ Kc Kd 2d Qd ] [ 4h ]
tituschalas: bets $1
officepool12: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [ Ad As ] (two pair, Aces and Kings)

1- What do u thing that he have?
2- What do u thing about my play before and after the flop?
3- I am a fish or a genius?
[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-01-2007, 09:21 AM
LateFlag LateFlag is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 176
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

3-bet preflop.

If for some reason you don't feel like 3-betting preflop, then you should plan to check-raise the flop no matter what hits.

Yes, if villain was stealing with trash and misses the flop, he's going to fold and you'll miss a bet or two that you might have gotten if you had played passively. But you'll earn more when villain has something he's willing to go to showdown with, and defending aggressively with your big hands will balance out the times when you defend aggressively with marginal made hands and draws.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-01-2007, 09:26 AM
Xhad Xhad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: .25/.50 6max - stars
Posts: 5,289
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

Firstly: http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Regarding the preflop call, it's not a terrible idea heads-up against most players, but you should nearly always c/r the flop when you do it (and the rest of the time probably slowplay to the turn). That way you still get your deception and your raise.

I think the rest of the postflop play is good if you were folding to a river raise. It looks like he probably had Qx.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-01-2007, 09:40 AM
flavicolo flavicolo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

thank you for your advices. The Villain finally has 9-9. The reason for call preflop it's to induce the BB enter to the pot also and to deceive the original Raiser.
regards.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-01-2007, 10:40 AM
LukeSLTS LukeSLTS is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Little Easy
Posts: 259
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

I always 3-bet preflop in this spot. You are missing too much value by not getting in more money when you are winning. Build the pot bigger so that the villain has more incentive to call down with his 99.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-01-2007, 01:38 PM
Fantam Fantam is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Matrix
Posts: 2,575
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

[ QUOTE ]
The reason for call preflop it's to induce the BB enter to the pot also and to deceive the original Raiser.
regards.

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think that you should be trying to play your AA against more than one opponent by not raising pf.

Thats quite simply because even though you will remain a favourite to win the hand, you will become less likely to win the more opponents that you have.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-01-2007, 01:54 PM
Xylocain Xylocain is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: [censored] more expensive
Posts: 1,222
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

Calling with premium in the blinds is terrible. Think about how much pooflinging goes on in blind play without premium hands.

IMO fastplaying premium against a steal is one of the most profitable situations in LHE as long as you defend with other hands as well. If you need to slow play, a decent line if you get action on the flop is call the raise and c-r turn. (but I would avoid that line in this hand given the flop)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-01-2007, 02:01 PM
sean c sean c is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,747
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

Welcome to the forums. Your pre flop and flop play are pretty bad. You need to be getting more money in on these two streets. I don't know that you always have to 3-bet AA but being OOP its the best way to go. If you do just call pre flop check/raise the flop and at least gain back the bet you missed pre flop. Calling the raise and donking the flop is usually going to be the way to win the least here when ahead.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-01-2007, 02:59 PM
LateFlag LateFlag is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 176
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

I misread the original post; I thought you were in the BB and I can see an argument for just smooth-calling there for deception purposes since the pot is already HU. I really hate your call from the SB. 3-betting in that spot is just about 100% mandatory.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-01-2007, 03:00 PM
Xhad Xhad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: .25/.50 6max - stars
Posts: 5,289
Default Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00

[ QUOTE ]
Calling with premium in the blinds is terrible. Think about how much pooflinging goes on in blind play without premium hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

I should mention that last night I misread the hand thinking hero was BB. With hero as SB and BB to act I'd rather 3bet, simply because some hands will be correct to call 1 and if he has a hand he'll call 2 with, our PFR gets 3-5SB worth of other people's money in the pot. That's huge.

That said...how often do you defend your blind with a hand like T9s and flop top or second pair only to get aggressive with that? Lots of aggression goes on in blind battles but it's not all preflop.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.