SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV 2007 (nc)

[xeanatic]

yay :/

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $160.60
MP: $33.10
Hero (CO): $103.75
BTN: $170.80
SB: $111.65
BB: $25.30

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($29.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($29.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $23</font>, BTN calls $23

River: ($75.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $66.75 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $66.75

Results: $209 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Eights) and LOST (-$103.75 NET)
BTN showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Eights) and WON $206 (+$102.25 NET)

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I find it really silly that a high WWSF is universally praised as the golden standard of a good player without any regard to game conditions whatsoever.

Barring an ultra tight preflop range, you're WWSF will be high if you bluff a lot. Bluffing a lot is optimal in games where your opponents fold too much. Versus opponents who call too much, the optimal style is to tighten up, bluff less and value bet made hands extremely hard, netting you less pots but more money.

Have I missed something?

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I think you're pretty spot on. You obviously have to adjust to game conditions, but there are tags that are 22/17 with a 39% W$SF and tags with 22/17 44% W$SF. With identical stats and a higher W$SF without knowing much else about their game
- I'd bet money on the later guy making more money overall and being able to beat higher stakes sooner every time.

The same decisions and thought processes that you use when actively trying to win more pots postflop will improve your hand reading, understanding of how groups of opponents play, and make you more money longterm as long as you take it step by step.

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Slider I want to KISS you!

Villain is 15/10, I'm playing really tight:



Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $353.05
SB: $195
Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $192.47
CO: $206

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, CO calls $16

Flop: ($49) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, CO calls $35

Turn: ($119) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $55</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $147 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $86 and is All-In

River: ($401) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $401 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $399 (+$199 NET)
CO showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$200 NET)

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In my post, no where did I advocate shoving a hand that will have little to no equity a lot of the time when called against a nit in a spot with no fold equity [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


But I'll take a kiss anyway.

[DaycareInferno]

herm

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $76.30
Hero (BB): $103
UTG: $98.15
BTN: $152.30

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, SB calls $3, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15</font>, BTN calls $11.50, SB folds

Flop: ($33.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $88 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $38

Turn: ($209.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($209.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $209.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Fives) and WON $207.50 (+$104.50 NET)
BTN showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$103 NET)

[VPIP100]

Lol, It never stops. Down 22 BI this month and counting. Also huge suckout on FTOPS event 4 and 2 insane suckouts on 1/2PLO. Shoot me.

[Shizzle12345]

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Lol, It never stops. Down 22 BI this month and counting. Also huge suckout on FTOPS event 4 and 2 insane suckouts on 1/2PLO. Shoot me.

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same here, just when i think its going allright my top set gets cracked in 300BB pot vs retard. So frustrating..

[dirtylobster]

I'm having a lollercoaster day again. First up 2 buyins, then down to -4. Now back up to +2.

[PartysOver]

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Lol, It never stops. Down 22 BI this month and counting. Also huge suckout on FTOPS event 4 and 2 insane suckouts on 1/2PLO. Shoot me.

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o?

[Claunchy]

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $117.55
UTG: $98.50
MP: $332.35
CO: $39.75
BTN: $100
Hero (SB): $99

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2</font>, CO calls $1, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($9) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $6</font>, CO calls $6, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27</font>, BB folds, MP calls $21, CO folds

Turn: ($69) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $70 and is All-In</font>, MP calls $70

River: ($209) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $209 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON $207.50 (+$108.50 NET)
Hero showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sixes) and LOST (-$99 NET)

[Dave Coulier]

Nothing feels better than a short session before football comes on and this happens..



2 stacks came from an uber donkey, and I was the only person at the table to get any money from him before he left [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

I think it all had to do with listening to this song before I played: I can't decide by Scissor Sisters. Im gonna listen to it everytime from now on. Someone else listen to it and post results heh [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Oh and if anyone knows how to get rid of that extra space in my pic please let me know. I dont know of any way to get rid of it in MSPaint, maybe I need some sort of photo editor?

Sweet. My B.R. finally broke 3k. I think Ill give myself a small break from poker for a bit now.