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11-28-2007, 06:06 AM
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Re: This is why I\'m for the death penalty.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So they weren't actually "wrongfully executed" were they? [/ QUOTE ] They were sentenced to death. [/ QUOTE ] Are they dead? [/ QUOTE ] They probably would be if they didn't fight the legal system through appeals and such. By sentencing someone to death, society is saying "we think you are guilty and we will kill you for it". Then, they turn out to be wrong. Oops. [/ QUOTE ] So Bedreviter is right. Its no different than sentencing someone to prison who is innocent. A tragedy, but no one but a few fringe nutjobs are actually calling for the abolition of the prison system for the reason that a small minority of people are wrongfully convicted. 
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11-28-2007, 06:09 AM
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Re: This is why I\'m for the death penalty.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So they weren't actually "wrongfully executed" were they? [/ QUOTE ] They were sentenced to death. [/ QUOTE ] Are they dead? [/ QUOTE ] They probably would be if they didn't fight the legal system through appeals and such. By sentencing someone to death, society is saying "we think you are guilty and we will kill you for it". Then, they turn out to be wrong. Oops. [/ QUOTE ] So BDV is right. Its no different than sentencing someone to prison who is innocent. A tragedy, but no one but a few fringe nutjobs are actually calling for the abolition of the prison system for the reason that a small minority of people are wrongfully convicted. [/ QUOTE ] That's actually a poor analogy. Death is final. Once you flip the switch, so to speak, there are no appeals and perhaps only an extremely small increase to the safety of others. Do you support the death penalty from position of deterrence or punishment or what?
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11-28-2007, 06:11 AM
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Re: This is why I\'m for the death penalty.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So they weren't actually "wrongfully executed" were they? [/ QUOTE ] They were sentenced to death. [/ QUOTE ] Are they dead? [/ QUOTE ] They probably would be if they didn't fight the legal system through appeals and such. By sentencing someone to death, society is saying "we think you are guilty and we will kill you for it". Then, they turn out to be wrong. Oops. [/ QUOTE ] So BDV is right. Its no different than sentencing someone to prison who is innocent. A tragedy, but no one but a few fringe nutjobs are actually calling for the abolition of the prison system for the reason that a small minority of people are wrongfully convicted. [/ QUOTE ] That's actually a poor analogy. Death is final. Once you flip the switch, so to speak, there are no appeals and perhaps only an extremely small increase to the safety of others. Do you support the death penalty from position of deterrence or punishment or what? [/ QUOTE ] Deterrence, public safety, punishment, all rolled together.
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11-28-2007, 06:10 AM
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Re: This is why I\'m for the death penalty.
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So Bedreviter is right. Its no different than sentencing someone to prison who is innocent. A tragedy, but no one but a few fringe nutjobs are actually calling for the abolition of the prison system for the reason that a small minority of people are wrongfully convicted. [/ QUOTE ] As long as the innocent person isn't killed in time, you're right. However, you are arguing for killing him, right?
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11-28-2007, 06:14 AM
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Re: This is why I\'m for the death penalty.
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[ QUOTE ] So Bedreviter is right. Its no different than sentencing someone to prison who is innocent. A tragedy, but no one but a few fringe nutjobs are actually calling for the abolition of the prison system for the reason that a small minority of people are wrongfully convicted. [/ QUOTE ] As long as the innocent person isn't killed in time, you're right. However, you are arguing for killing him, right? [/ QUOTE ] Yea, ignore what I said at the top of the thread, I was in the middle of some female induced tilt. The truth is, the appeals system works. It does become a pain though, because so many of these guys know they're guilty, their attorneys know they're guilty, and there is plenty of hard evidence to prove guilt, so they clog up the court system with minor technicalities.
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11-28-2007, 10:44 AM
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Re: This is why I\'m for the death penalty.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So Bedreviter is right. Its no different than sentencing someone to prison who is innocent. A tragedy, but no one but a few fringe nutjobs are actually calling for the abolition of the prison system for the reason that a small minority of people are wrongfully convicted. [/ QUOTE ] As long as the innocent person isn't killed in time, you're right. However, you are arguing for killing him, right? [/ QUOTE ] Yea, ignore what I said at the top of the thread, I was in the middle of some female induced tilt. The truth is, the appeals system works. It does become a pain though, because so many of these guys know they're guilty, their attorneys know they're guilty, and there is plenty of hard evidence to prove guilt, so they clog up the court system with minor technicalities. [/ QUOTE ] So if it worked faster....then your points in this thread would be even MORE wrong?
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