How are the police allowed to do this?

[Shenlong]

Thanks for the stunning insight

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Do you know why El Al is considered the safest airline to fly from the perspective of being the target of a terrorist attack? Because they don't waste time searching grandmothers, making people take off their shoes, and inspecting shampoo bottles. Instead, they have profilers and behavioral specialists wandering around the terminal observing and talking to people who look or act suspicious.

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I hate this argument. It says that the most effective thing a terrorist can do is doctor granny's shampoo bottle while she's not looking.

It's nice to question Osama especially, but not if it means you get lazy and ignore everyone who is not he. When we show tendencies, we expose ourselves to be exploited.

[dinopoker]

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I didn't read the rest of the replies.

So the police are on higher alert in that area due to criminal activity. They see a car come through and notice what makes the police suspicious:

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They noticed the driver "looking very suspicious" as he looked back and forth at the police several times.

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At this time, it alerts them and they begin following this car. Now, they can't just stop him because he looks "suspicious," but they can follow him for as long as they want and wait until he violates a traffic law, which gives them probable cause to make a traffic stop. This came when they noticed he didn't have a front license plate, which is probably a law for residents of this area? Pennsylvania doesn't have a front license plate law, so I don't know, but I'm assuming that it is standard for cars registered in that state. They could have followed him and stopped him for anything like not using a turn signal, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, or any thing else that is a slight violation just for the probable cause to check out what is going on.

Police asked for his driver's license, which is standard, where he didn't give it to them until being asked 3 more times. This alerts the police more, don't you think? He is being more suspicious. If he didn't have anything to hide, why would he be acting this way? I'm not saying he is/was hiding anything, but he could have just came forth with his driver's license and that would be the end of it. I highly doubt that the police knew who he was beforehand, and even if they did, it's still standard procedure what they did up to this point.

The police ask him to get out of his car, being on higher alert, they probably want to search his vehicle or search him. It doesn't say why, so I'm just guessing.

Weary then became more verbally combative and then pushed an officer away. They gave him a chance to put his hands on the vehicle and when he took a step toward the officers, they shot him with a taser.

It's very standard. I don't know why you, OP, think they did something wrong.

Just because he is black has nothing to do with it. Don't be judgmental. If this happened to any other person (white), you wouldn't be starting this thread. And just because he is a pro football player it doesn't mean he has immunity to the laws.

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So if a police car pulls in behind you, the best strategy is just to pull over and stop. That way you won't violate any traffic laws and he can't pull you over?

[guids]

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Ya, I dont know or care about this specific situaion, but I have a bumper sticker with the Italian Flag on my rear window, so when Im driving around in my black escalade on 22's I dont get pulled over every 2 blocks.

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Guids,

This might be a stupid question but I don't understand this. Is this so they don't think you're Mexican?

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Its so they dont think Im black.

[NSchandler]

Why the hell does OOT try to make every single traffic stop into some racial profiling drama? The article mentioned nothing about race being a factor. That was only a concoction of the OP that 75% of you latched onto immediately.

I also love how some people are saying "he only looks scary because he's black and that's why they pulled him over." Good point, racist. I mean, you guys do realize that you're the only ones equating scary with black, right?

Look at his picture, the guy looks scary. Not because he's black, but because he's [censored] huge and isn't exactly smiling in that picture. I don't understand how people can be so confused about how a guy who looks like that and seems to be nervous about the police being there is suspicious. This stuff happens every day to people of all colors. It's happened to me and I'm white. Sometimes you just look suspicious even if you're not doing anything wrong. That's all there is to it.

Of course, I never got tasered, but that's because I cooperated instead of pushing the cops. But that's a different story.

[fslexcduck]

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I am tired of the "racial profiling" hysteria.

The fact is, if you were to research those imprisoned for grand theft auto, a predominant number are African-American males.

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I haven't read the rest of the thread - but do you see how this logic is flawed? Yes, most people imprisoned for GTA are black, and most people pulled over are black as well. We don't know causation and correlation.

And in any event, racial profiling, while it is possibly effective, is still an infrigement on basic civil liberties. It isn't enough to say that it will have a small +EV impact on catching criminals, even if we had proof that that were the case.

[Freerollin`]

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Thremp,

Please watch the movie Crash to see how black people are treated in traffic stops.

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I have not seen this movie but I envision the response to be more like.

First: "What you want?"
Twice: "I ain't done nothing wrong."
Third: "Fine, always hatin on da black man"
Fourth: "Don't make me get out this car"

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Thremp:

I spent 10 years in law enforcement. Black people never acted this way, contrary to their portrayal in popular culture.

Also, you implied that blacks speak Ebonics during traffic stops, so the first response would have been more along the lines of "Wha chu wan?" The third should have been, "Aight, always hatin' on the black man." Finally, the fourth should have been, "Don't make me get outta 'dis car."

You seem pretty dumb at real life.

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So if a police car pulls in behind you, the best strategy is just to pull over and stop. That way you won't violate any traffic laws and he can't pull you over?

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No, this creates an obvious hazard. Or you could be in distress. Either way they will have to stop and investigate.

[Hopey]

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Believe it or not, black males commit a lot of crime in this country. Sounds like this guy had a big chip on his shoulder. If he was innocent, he should act innocent.

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I guess he should act extra innocent because he's black?

[AngusThermopyle]

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how about, they were being racist. Dude these labels, "scary" guy, ....

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So the OP is a racist too?
Because he is the one who uses the term "scary".
Not the police.
Nowhere in the ESPN/AP report is the word "scary".
But, ok. Cops are racist. So they must have used the term somewhere.