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Old 11-26-2007, 03:16 PM
optionsguy optionsguy is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

i'd be suprised if he didn't snap call
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

i would just call the river, you are getting great odds, and even if you are not good very often you get to see how he plays the hand which is worth something

preflop is ok once in a while. flop check is fine. turn is fine too.

the title of your post sucks as it makes it seem like he called
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

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Gonna get looked up unless you were already ahead. There's a large overlay in the pot, and he knows he bet weak on a superficially scary board.

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Old 11-26-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

I think any decent player calls pretty quick with anything that beats you here.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me


"I think betting this flop is pretty terrible. My hand is essentially a bluff-catcher on this flop."

Villan uses the bluff call a lot?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

Willy,

"I think betting this flop is pretty terrible. My hand is essentially a bluff-catcher on this flop."

A bluff catcher or a semibluff catcher in which you get chased down a ton by not value betting?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

You guys really think there's value in betting this flop?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Yell at me

Read my first post again. If there is value in this hand it surely lies towards the beginning of the hand rather then the latter. If he is betting this hand by the river, you are cooked more often then not.

If you don't think there is value with this hand with this flop against this guy then you should absolutely 100% not be reraising him preflop. Simple as that.
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:01 PM
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Villain running like 16/12 over 1.5k+ hands. If you don't like preflop I can explain the logic later, but if you understand 3betting, it's pretty basic stuff. As for this specific hand though, I was mainly bored preflop. No relevant history, my image is pretty taggy.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $365
UTG: $54.70
MP: $205
CO: $336.45
Hero (BTN): $200
SB: $98

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $18

Flop: ($53) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($53) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30

River: ($113) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $145 and is All-In</font>

Some thoughts and ranges:

Preflop, probably something like AQs+, TT-QQ. Turn, definetely pegged him on the same range, but obv more weighted towards the PP's. River, overs were out the door. Can he ever call with TT-QQ!? Does he ever have better than 1 pair?!

Flame away.

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There is no point in raising because you rep nothing. The only legitimate hand you can have here is 77 and only 77. So he's going to fold air and call with TT or better. Calling &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Raising.
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