1000NL, OOP in reraised pot against two TAGs

friend_ · #1 11-16-2007, 11:16 PM

I really hate the way I played this hand, but I want to know ALL the mistakes I made here.

Villain are both party regs: 16.5/13/2.8 and 17/11/2.2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($1000)
Button ($1023)
Hero ($990)
BB ($2737.50)
UTG ($1314)
MP ($1445.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $35, CO raises to $125, 1 fold, Hero calls $120, 1 fold, MP calls $90.

Flop: ($385) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($385) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $260, MP calls $260, CO folds.

River: ($905) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $360, MP calls $1060.50 (All-In), Hero calls $245 (All-In).

Final Pot: $2570.50

1) preflop. I very rarely 4bet with QQ + ranges of these two guys are pretty tight. However I dont know how I may fold QQ on a non-K or non-A flop. So, should I definately 4bet pf?
2) flop. here I think I missed a bet. Would you shove if this bet get raised?
3) river. In this situation I almost always hear: "Shove yourself". I decided not shoving on the river, cause this villain may fold medium pairs to a shove, but may call a smaller bet with 88 or 66. The problem with this strategy is that I think I should fold to a raise if I dont shove here. So, will you call as played?

highstakesfish · #2 11-16-2007, 11:28 PM

1) 4bet> fold > call
2) yes
3) yes

sholler · #3 11-16-2007, 11:32 PM

4bet pf, i fold more than i call a shove pf(against 2 nits), but folding every time is sooooo bad. safe to lead flop against 2 villains, shove if raised. if i knew the other guy had 88 for a fact on river i would probably shove for value