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Old 10-26-2007, 06:07 PM
MikeyObviously MikeyObviously is offline
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New to NL, first day on the job, two hands:

PokerStars $1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

CO: $200.00
Button: $439.75
SB: $207.20
BB: $224.15
UTG: $431.80
MP: $399.25

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $8</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $61</font>, Hero calls $37.

Flop: ($122.00) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $68</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $163.15 (all in)</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $258.00


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PokerStars $1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

CO: $482.75
Button: $91.00
SB: $261.50
BB: $200.00
UTG: $197.00
MP: $244.10

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, MP calls $7, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($17.00) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $10</font>, MP calls $10.

Turn: ($37.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">MP bets $8</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $32</font>, MP calls $24.

River: ($101.00) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $40</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $101.00
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:28 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: Line check

bet more on the flop in hand 2, a standard cbet would be about $14

I dont like the turn checkraise, You've likely got the best hand but you are very vulnerable, why give him the option of a free card? Then when you do raise you still give him good odds
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: Line check

Did you have a read on SB in hand 1? Or just assuming a wide range because it was BvB?

I'm new to NL still and trying to figure out how to best play TT/JJ and when 3bet PF with no read it seems a bit suicidal to push the flop. Higher pairs are going to call and dominate and if SB is just c-betting with ace high on the flop and you call behind, SB could fire again and make you more $$$. Or is that too passive with TT/JJ even 99 on this flop?
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:12 AM
MikeyObviously MikeyObviously is offline
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Default Re: Line check

basically, the only question after I call the 4 bet is how often am I ahead of his PF range on this specific flop.

After his 1/2 potter the pot was 180, and there was 140ish left to put in. The 140 goes in or it doesn't. If his PF 4 bet range has AK and AQ its probably a push, even more so if you add 88 and 99. If not then it is probably a fold.
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