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Old 09-04-2007, 11:43 PM
cs3 cs3 is offline
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Default JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

<font color="blue"> villain is a newish regular to stars 100NL 6max and a 2p2er. my note on him said "overaggro, let him hang himself".
hes running ~26/21 at the time of the hand (Laggier than usual) and his FlopAggoFactor is through the roof - he's the autobet-if-checked-too type adn nevr checks after a pfr. however he's been playing pretty solid so far from what i can tell, other than calling my 3bets light when in pos </font>



Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $136.45
Hero (BB): $113.95
UTG: $29.35
CO: $89.95
BTN: $119.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt J J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13.00</font>, BTN calls $9.00

Flop: ($26.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
<font color="blue"> i was planning to ch/rai on flop, expecting to get clals from any pair he bet with, along with any draw + overs. but of course he checked behind for the first time all session. </font>

Turn: ($26.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $48.00</font>
<font color="blue"> wtf? are we folding? shoving? just calling? hero has 82 bb's left</font>
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

i shove
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

I've actually been sitting here for about 5 minutes trying to work out why you are thinking of anything but shoving. Nothing is coming to mind.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

As played shove imo ,in vilain s eyes u don t have much of anything there so his reraising range is wild being an overagro .
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

I think you gotta shove here after checking that flop.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

If he was planning to bluff wouldn't he do it on the flop?
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

As played, I think a full pot bet is better on the turn. Might not matter too much.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

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I've actually been sitting here for about 5 minutes trying to work out why you are thinking of anything but shoving. Nothing is coming to mind.

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what is he raising the turn with?
im not saying shoving is wrong, but at least give me a range
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

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what is he raising the turn with?
im not saying shoving is wrong, but at least give me a range

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AQ/AK/TT w/ a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? I see your point though.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair in RR pot vs regular. i check the flop...

i think that range is pretty accurate and the majority of his holdings, but i might add the rare turned set + AXss flushes.

but does villain ever check behind the flop with a draw?
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