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Old 04-27-2007, 04:39 PM
ConstantineX ConstantineX is offline
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Default What Are You Optimistic About?

What are you most optimistic about in the next 100 years? It can be political, economic, health, technology, anything - but I'd especially encourage tangible processes and explanations.

This is the Edge Question of the Year, which you can find here. It's a great read, but it's mostly answered by those academics in the sciences, where this forum can expound more on concrete political and economic goals.

Note: Natedogg posted this exact same thread in the EDF, but it was a shame because no one decided to reply to it. Politics is a much more vocal place, so I thought I'd try anew.
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:00 PM
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:05 PM
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:05 PM
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in the third world.

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RU serious?
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:10 PM
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in the third world.

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Sort of. I dunno why those aren't working, but anyway, I'm currently working on a large portion of that particular puzzle, so from a purely selfish point of view, I hope it succeeds. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Personally, I feel the third world has the greatest potential for broad expansion of true freedom, especially once we get tools to spread information into the hands of the people, and bypass governments completely. The local governments are just barely strong enough to maintain their current hold on things, there's no massively entrenched welfare state, the obsticles to overcome are in many ways much smaller than they are in the West.
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:20 PM
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Sort of. I dunno why those aren't working, but anyway, I'm currently working on a large portion of that particular puzzle, so from a purely selfish point of view, I hope it succeeds. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Personally, I feel the third world has the greatest potential for broad expansion of true freedom, especially once we get tools to spread information into the hands of the people, and bypass governments completely. The local governments are just barely strong enough to maintain their current hold on things, there's no massively entrenched welfare state, the obsticles to overcome are in many ways much smaller than they are in the West.

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I haven't read these in a while (and I was much less extreme back then), but it do remember it really opening my eyes:

http://www.libertarian.to/NewsDta/te...php?art=art894
http://www.libertarian.to/NewsDta/te...php?art=art397


After you've read those, try to compare those countries and the west with the war on poverty and the welfare state. How those things create a perpetual situation of subsidized poverty (and corruption).
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: What Are You Optimistic About?

I'm no libertarian, but development of microfinancing and micropayments make me rather optimistic that the problems outlined above will be addressed in a way that will help many people lift themselves out of poverty without governments interfering.
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:35 PM
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1) renewed kinship networks in the face of crisis - these kinship networks will be both extremely local (knowing your neighbors) and astoundingly global

2) increasing irrelevance of private property in information-space and the rise of altruistic gift economies

3) the death of fundamentalisms - both the fundamentalisms of religion and the fundamentalisms of empiricism and Enlightenment-based egoism

4) re-localization of food and the collapse of industrial monocropping

5) a massive population loss - I'm not optimistic about this happening obviously, it's going to be awful, but if it happens it will be because it is inevitable, and after the inevitable, a possible new paradigm will emerge that recognizes the presence of ecological boundaries and dismisses hubris about humans being above nature as, quite literally, insane

6) The Archaic Revival

7) also, pvn's thoughts, above
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:43 PM
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7) also, pvn's thoughts, above

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uh, I guess pvn deleted his. Anyway, I think that the ability for some developing countries to springboard off of current technology, especially with regards to energy and technology, is a thing I am optimistic about. No need to reinvent the powerplant.
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:51 PM
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7) also, pvn's thoughts, above

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uh, I guess pvn deleted his. Anyway, I think that the ability for some developing countries to springboard off of current technology, especially with regards to energy and technology, is a thing I am optimistic about. No need to reinvent the powerplant.

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I deleted it because the images weren't working; I tried repairing them, but it didn't happen.
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