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KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
Sorry no reads. I had been tight (obv)
PokerStars Game #13267274625: Tournament #66640482, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/11/15 - 22:49:26 (ET) Table '66640482 97' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: WiLDmAn75 (26115 in chips) Seat 2: nargnice (11190 in chips) Seat 3: dicknastyjr (4480 in chips) Seat 4: HpNOtiC (5462 in chips) Seat 5: elio82 (20987 in chips) Seat 7: diegel (9180 in chips) Seat 8: ulty_dude (9535 in chips) Seat 9: JSchnett (9011 in chips) WiLDmAn75: posts the ante 10 nargnice: posts the ante 10 dicknastyjr: posts the ante 10 HpNOtiC: posts the ante 10 elio82: posts the ante 10 diegel: posts the ante 10 ulty_dude: posts the ante 10 JSchnett: posts the ante 10 diegel: posts small blind 100 ulty_dude: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to JSchnett [Kh Kc] JSchnett: raises 400 to 600 WiLDmAn75: folds nargnice: folds dicknastyjr: folds HpNOtiC: folds elio82: folds diegel: calls 500 ulty_dude: folds *** FLOP *** [Tc 8d 2h] diegel: checks JSchnett: bets 1000 diegel: calls 1000 *** TURN *** [Tc 8d 2h] [Ah] diegel: checks JSchnett: checks *** RIVER *** [Tc 8d 2h Ah] [3s] diegel: bets 3480 (exactly pot) JSchnett: Generally I think that these bets are for value but I had trouble putting him on a hand that he would play this way. I don't think hes calling in the sb with A2/A8, AT could be a possiblilty but seems strange for him to c/c the flop with TPTK. Could be 22/88 even TT but I highly doubt it is AJ/AQ considering it would be a terrible valuebet and they would have had to call on the flop. thoughts? |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I fold pretty quick. Though there aren't many hands that you are losing to, there are even fewer hands that can be bluffing here.
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I guess u have to fold w/o a read. However, given that you checked turn to keep pot small, you essentially induce a bluff a significant percentage of time here on river. Would you call if he bet half the bot?
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I'd fold with no read and I really hate folding especially when I play a strong hand in a way which will underrep my hand and induce bluffs.
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)?
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
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Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)? [/ QUOTE ] no.....no..........no................no |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
I would never bet the turn.
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Does anyone bluff the turn here (in order to avoid being bluffed on the river)? [/ QUOTE ] no.....no..........no................no [/ QUOTE ] why is that so bad (serious Q), if you bet like 1400-1800 here (basically an amount you'd call on the river), why not bet here so that if he calls and leads river you're 100% not good. most often after you've fired twice villain is much more likely to check river which will allow you to get to showdown cheaper. |
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
fold, you're beat, and I never fold ever ever ever
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Re: KK facing pot sized river bet (PS $162)
he can bluff the river if you check the turn. You can get c/red on the turn by a bluff/ semibluff.
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