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Old 09-18-2007, 03:26 PM
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:27 PM
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but let's give the Mensa squad over at Absolute a little more than 2 days to figure this thing out.

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screw that. there's no justice like angry mob justice.

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Old 09-18-2007, 03:27 PM
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He said there were 87,000 (obv exaggeration) of them.. I am going to guess he sorted through enough of them and is having problems formatting them so it isnt worth his time to post them..
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:31 PM
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if the mod wants me to email him my whole HH he can either ask me or have adnathar forward it to him as I emailed it to him

I am also confident that if anyone else in the tourney who was at payups table sent theits in, the puzzle would be fairly complete.

sheets
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:34 PM
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I am the last person to ever subscribe to any conspiracy theory regarding anything at all, but when I was playing the abs 1k on august 22 a few weeks back I was on AIM with Inissint and he was telling me about this player "payup" who was just winning literally every hand on another table....He eventually got moved to my table and then left and back again and eventually beat me hu, but it really was fairly unreal. I do not have the patience to sift through this whole hh to weed out the hands payup was in, but if anyone is so inclined they can do the honors......

and if I am wrong about payup, I apologize in advance, although if he is out there, I am so confident that I will pay him 1k for his exposed hole cards hand history so long as it can be authenticated.

and if there is any way to condense this I pre-authorize the mods to do so.

sheets


also, as I recall, "Thegrinder" was at his table for a long time as well (not michael mizrachi...thegrinder plays on stars as dumpingkgb and as pxfactor on ftp if anyone knows him maybe they can get him to find his hh)

edit...never mind, it is way too big, but i will email it to whoever can condense it and post it...please pm me

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Payups PokerDB....

Date Buyin Tournament/Event Place Entrants Winnings

9/7/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 40 235 —

8/25/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 248 306 —

8/22/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 1 119 $35,700.00

8/18/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 248 365 —

8/14/2007 $100 NL Hold'em 20 85 —

8/14/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 63 136 —

8/13/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 628 713 —

8/9/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 54 121 —

6/20/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 28 94 —

6/4/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 51 134 —

6/1/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 6 19 —

5/30/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 3 16 —

5/22/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 2 13 $12.00

5/14/2007 $30 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 165 207 —

5/10/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 225 315 —

5/9/2007 $20 NL Hold'em 59 85 —

5/1/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 114 299 —

3/22/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 328 396 —

3/21/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 27 29 —

3/20/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 219 426 —

3/20/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 35 42 —

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Sorry for such a lo content post, but wow.

Wow.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:35 PM
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Scientific Method.
Assumption: The cheaters could actually see the hole cards.
Theory 1: Cheaters are a rogue group of hackers who somehow hacked into AP's servers and compromised hole card information
Theory 2: Cheaters actually work for AP and used "security" accounts or "super" accounts to view the hole cards

Prediction-Theory 1 If theory 1 is correct, the expected response from AP would be swift. The accounts would be closed, a press release issued to their customers detailing exactly what happened, and then a detailed response about how they will ensure this kind of security breach will never happen again.

Prediction-Theory 2: The response from AP would be slow, and perhaps non-existent. They would drag their feet while formulating an excuse, and perhaps release a few small PR's to judge public response-basically, what we're seeing right now.

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This is terrible logic. Prediction #1 would never happen regardless of who is cheating.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:37 PM
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Casaubon,

I think you might be underestimating the impact of not just 2+2, but every major poker forum online. Gone are the days where people blindly fumbled through the inter-webs. Most people who sign up and play online poker are savy enough to find most of these forums and read them for information.

cliffnotes: Internet forums that deal with internet poker = media that deal with everyday life.

You're also assuming that people in the press don't read this messageboard. The lack of damage control is disturbing, to say the least.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:44 PM
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how do you see complete lists of MTT results for individual players in the DB? Is that an subscription option?
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:45 PM
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Everyone, I just spend like 2 minutes creating a little "boycott AP" gif if anyone else wants to make a better one or use mine, please do.

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Thanks for the inspiration:

fell free to do with them as you would like. More on the way from the photoshop depot.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:48 PM
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Casaubon,

I think you might be underestimating the impact of not just 2+2, but every major poker forum online. Gone are the days where people blindly fumbled through the inter-webs. Most people who sign up and play online poker are savy enough to find most of these forums and read them for information.

cliffnotes: Internet forums that deal with internet poker = media that deal with everyday life.

You're also assuming that people in the press don't read this messageboard. The lack of damage control is disturbing, to say the least.

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No, I just think you're vastly overestimating the impact of this message board. There's a sense of "we are the center of the poker universe" here that is deeply out of whack with the rest of the universe.

It's a disturbing story, I've moved all my money off the site because of this, but to say, as that post does, that "A lack of response by Absolute implies (proves?) it was an inside job" is completely dishonest and utterly contrary to all rules of marketing, pr, and the way corporate hacks think.
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