Hand vs a very good tag who knows me

[ArturiusX]

Alright, villian is a 2p2er, is fairly well respected on these forums, and I do talk to him on AIM occasionally about hands etc. He runs at 21/17, and knows how I play pretty well. I run at 24/18 and generally like to float a lot, mess around, try unusually lines, and value bet thin. He plays a little bit more straightforward then me, but is perfectly aware of how I play, and we have discussed how to deal with players like me. He could still pull a move.

Ok, onto the hand:

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $720.50
SB: $76
BB: $287.70
UTG: $460
MP: $608.10
CO: $619

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $14, 2 folds

Flop: ($34) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($84) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $80</font>, CO calls $80

River: ($244) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $240, planning on folding to a c/r</font>

Who likes how I played it?

[ArturiusX]

Just to give context, I considered a few lines, most notably checking behind on the river. Yes.

[Jamougha]

I may be missing something but I am struggling to find anything interesting about the hand.

[HustlerLA]

I think its fine as long as he doesnt c/r bluff rivers at all often.

[fooz]

Personally I'd rather 3b (or fold) preflop. Why go any further against a good player if you don't have to?

I like the Flop and Turn, but it's hard to imagine what calls your River bet that you beat. A set is betting or CR'ing the Turn. And the flush draws would probably let go (even with the deep stacks) if this guy is really a thinking player. About the only hand I see making it this far is a AK-AJ, and he's very unlikely to call such a large river bet (especially with the heart coming).

I'd bet less on the River: maybe 1/2 to 3/4 pot.

[jono]

I think I like a $200 river bet better

[ArturiusX]

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I may be missing something but I am struggling to find anything interesting about the hand.

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I've just had some good discussions in aim about it, just different lines, like checking behind turn raising any river, do I fold to a c/r, should I bet small on the river, maybe even raise flop?

[ArturiusX]

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Personally I'd rather 3b (or fold) preflop. Why go any further against a good player if you don't have to?


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Ego, duh. I don't mind a 3bet pre either, but I opted not too.

[ArturiusX]

Also, should I fold to a turn c/r?

[Jamougha]

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I may be missing something but I am struggling to find anything interesting about the hand.

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I've just had some good discussions in aim about it, just different lines, like checking behind turn raising any river, do I fold to a c/r, should I bet small on the river, maybe even raise flop?

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Hmm, it does suck to be checkraised on the turn. However the overriding principle here is that, if you float a lot, you need to value bet the turn light when checked to. Two pair isn't exactly light here. So if you want to get tricky by checking behind then it shouldn't be something you do often.

On the river, your bet size should be the same regardless of what you are betting with vs a solid player I think, unless you want to get into a level fest. If you are in here with air a lot then larger bets are better in a game-theoretic sense and I think pot is fine. I would fold to a checkraise and I don't think it's close.