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Old 07-21-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default So I flop the nuts, and check.....

Very rare slowplay preflop. Villan is ABC 20/13. He is c-betting all draws and overpair/tptk type hands. Therefore I checked. I'm crushing his turn range right?


Shortie is irrelevant IMO.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($191)</font>
SB ($56.25)
BB ($148)
UTG ($200)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($177)</font>
CO ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, SB calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($28) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($28) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $66</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $169</font>, Hero calls $103.

River: ($366) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $366

Given the PF slowplay, is my line "standard"?
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:56 PM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

hm i don't like the slowplay w/ 3 player left to act (if there aren't all nits)
irrespective of this i am never slowplaying here pf :P

and i also don't slowplay the flop...
because of potbiulding and protection...
if the 2 villians have air you won't get any value out of them at the turn at all
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

uh?
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

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hm i don't like the slowplay

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I was mixing it up, very rare. i see no problems... on to the hand

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if the 2 villians have air you won't get any value out of them at the turn at all

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What about hands like TT/T8, AK/AJ with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], or A5/A8/AT with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

bad bad bad

you made this really hard to play...i would pot the flop when it gets checked to you...and with this action i dont know but id prolly jsut call turn
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

not betting the flop is pretty bad
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

this hand is played very well in my opinion. You don't have to raise the turn but it's fine. It is more likely guy has some kind of draw+draw, paid + draw, weaker made hand than he has a hand that beats you.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

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not betting the flop is pretty bad

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Even though I know my target villan has no draw and no monster, but will very likely pick up a redraw I can charge him for, or mabye even a set/weird 2 pair??



Obv this is a very unorthodox play, but I really wanted to max out value here, and this villan was most likely c/f this flop.

(Also shortie would most def shove a draw)
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

flop check is just bad, especially 3way
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: So I flop the nuts, and check.....

I think j9 is the only hand you're behind on the turn...
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