J9s on the river

cartman · #1 03-12-2006, 05:51 PM

MP is 28/18/2 and seems pretty solid. CO is unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, CO calls, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero?

What do you think so far?

What do you do on the river?

Does your answer change against an unknown?

Thanks,
Cartman

Surf · #2 03-12-2006, 05:54 PM

Hey Cartman,

I would let this one go on the turn. That said, i'm kind of a postflop nit lately and i'd love to hear otherwise.

If you made it to the river it's b/c you think he's capable of semibluffing/betting too much so i'd call the river since the Q doesn't change much.

Surf

brazilio · #3 03-12-2006, 06:41 PM

I always like multiway flops with mid pairs because it allows me to fold well on the turn against most anybody. Board's awful drawey so I could be persuaded to call down I guess, but if he's behind and drawing he'll usually have a monster draw, and he's not behind by much.

ALL1N · #4 03-12-2006, 08:03 PM

If you were MP here holding, say, AQ, how would you play the hand?

Keystone · #5 03-12-2006, 08:07 PM

I fold the turn unless the villian is out of line.

helpmeout · #6 03-12-2006, 08:09 PM

easy fold, normally I'd fold the turn unless the guy plays draws aggressively.

The only hands you were really beating on the flop is KQ or QJ

cartman · #7 03-12-2006, 08:15 PM

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If you were MP here holding, say, AQ, how would you play the hand?

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I would typically call the flop raise and fold unimproved on the turn. Is that correct?

7ontheline · #8 03-12-2006, 08:22 PM

I fold this turn also - not only are you unimproved but the 5 pairs the board and eliminates your Js as outs against an overpair.

Catt · #9 03-12-2006, 08:28 PM

I generally won't raise the flop; I'll have a look at the turn and decide to check-and-see (sometimes call, sometimes raise, sometimes fold), or donk.

ALL1N · #10 03-12-2006, 08:32 PM

Would you entertain the idea of 3-betting to try and isolate what is possibly a draw?