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Old 09-24-2007, 04:33 AM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

Looking over the rules again, what's the rationale for 3pt%/2pt% rather than 3pt made? Would anyone be terribly averse to using some combination of 3pm and/or True Shooting Percentage?
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

3pt made is a worthless metric. They're already counted in points and don't measure anything of use beyond that. If you make a 3, you get 3 - and you're already getting credit for those 3. I think that lots of leagues use 3PM because they're lazy and it's easy to measure. They might as well use FTM.

3pt percentage measures a player's scoring efficiency, which is very, very valuable. Points per possession wins games. Points per game wins scoring titles.

The starting point for me is a positive relationship between a stat and an NBA team winning as a result of it. The 9 stats we have enjoy that relationship to the best of my knowledge, and the resulting league balance bears that out.

The league has a balance between "bulk" categories (PTS, REB, AST, STL, BKL) and "efficiency" categories (2P%, 3P%, FT%, TO), making a variety of team strategies viable. If you replace an efficiency stat with another bulk stat, you end up glorifiying chuckers (guys who hoist 6+ threes a game and hit ~30% of them, butchering their team in the process) and undervaluing assassins (guys who take 2-3 threes a game and hit 40% of them).
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

To echo Alex, the cool thing is that with the current setup, it really allows teams to attack the league in a variety of ways. This setup particularly benefits the cap conscious owner as the heavy bulk guys always get overvalued and the less sexy efficient guys, like Shane Battier, get undervalued.

As you'll see when constructing a team, it also really puts a premium on how one constructs a team. We've had people create teams that fundamentally let their 3% ride on basically 2-3 guys, with the rest of the team being guys who rarely shoot 3's, and we've had teams that ignored the category altogether but really had massive bulk production. And both styles have won titles.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

Yyyyesss, I am in (responding to your email from earlier).

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Old 09-24-2007, 10:52 AM
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Arg are you serious we can't send via PS or Full Tilt? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Anyone out there wanna send a check/money order for me and i'll send them PS or Full Tilt money?
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:08 AM
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Arg are you serious we can't send via PS or Full Tilt? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Anyone out there wanna send a check/money order for me and i'll send them PS or Full Tilt money?

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I can do it.

-McGee
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:12 AM
EPiPeN11 EPiPeN11 is offline
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Arg are you serious we can't send via PS or Full Tilt? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Anyone out there wanna send a check/money order for me and i'll send them PS or Full Tilt money?

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I can do it.

-McGee

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Ok how much are we sending again? And what site do you want it on, PS or Full Tilt? And what is your sn?
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

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Arg are you serious we can't send via PS or Full Tilt? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Anyone out there wanna send a check/money order for me and i'll send them PS or Full Tilt money?

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I can do it.

-McGee

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Ok how much are we sending again? And what site do you want it on, PS or Full Tilt? And what is your sn?

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$132. PM sent.

-McGee
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:52 AM
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Who can I pay through stars?
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:07 PM
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Who can I pay through stars?

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I can handle yours, too. I'll PM you tonight.

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