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Old 02-02-2007, 04:45 PM
Jurollo Jurollo is offline
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Default Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

FTP $150, 1st hour. Guy instapushed back over me, I cant think of anything I beat aside from JdTd.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $30/$60
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($420, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $360</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1250</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $5116</font>, Hero ?
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

People on FT like to go all in when the flop pairs with things like A9 when 9 is the other flop card. I've seen it so many times, people thinking "..well, only a Q beats me!!" when that's not strictly true. Also high pocket pairs would push too! I'd have called as only 99 and the case queen with a larger kicker beats you at that point.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

Call, he will show up w/ trapping AA/KK/draws and other overplayed hands often enough to make this a call.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

I wouldn't raise the flop if I didn't intend on calling the shove. But I WOULD call the shove.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:56 PM
Bob Loblaw Bob Loblaw is offline
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

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I wouldn't raise the flop if I didn't intend on calling the shove. But I WOULD call the shove.

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what he said.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

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Call, he will show up w/ trapping AA/KK/draws and other overplayed hands often enough to make this a call.

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Then do you think it is a raise on the flop? I am thinking he fires with a lot of diamond draws in that family pot as well as a lot of Q's and maybe 99. My best guess is this is KQ.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:00 PM
Potowame Potowame is offline
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

It seems more like a 99-AA than a Q. Mainly because I see players try to slow play the Q here but lead out with 99 hoping the Q is in play, or leading a slow played Higher Pocket thinking that the Q is unlikly in play.

Have you been Lagging it up or pretty quit?
How did he get such a big stack already?
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

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It seems more like a 99-AA than a Q. Mainly because I see players try to slow play the Q here but lead out with 99 hoping the Q is in play, or leading a slow played Higher Pocket thinking that the Q is unlikly in play.

Have you been Lagging it up or pretty quit?
How did he get such a big stack already?

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The board is so coordinated I doubt anyone is going to slowplay that flop.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:06 PM
Mi_T_Sharp Mi_T_Sharp is offline
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

I believe you have trips, sir.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Set on QQ9 flop... what to do?

I agree 100% that it would be incorrect to slow play a Q here. That being said, I see alot of players incorrectly look for a check raise on boards like these, vs leading out. Just becuase its a bad play dosn't make it doubtful, Thats why I was wondering how he got his chips.

I guess what I mean is that the only type player you are ahead of here is a bad player. I doubt a good player is going broke in a unraised pot here, with any thing other than a Q or 99. So either he is bad enough to check a Q and lead worse here or Good enough to lead with KQ or AQ or 99.
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