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Old 08-22-2007, 08:16 PM
ThE_DrOpOuT ThE_DrOpOuT is offline
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Default Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online players?

For the everyday grinder they offer no rakeback promotion, and only at the highest vip levels do they offer nice perks. I understand the high volume of players makes the site very attractive to people who want to multi-table, but it seems like these players are missing out on very lucrative rakeback deals. Could somebody please fill me in if im overlooking some details of the vip packages at pokerstars, thanks.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

I believe the rake itself is lower at pokerstars. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, many people have worked out RB %s for FPPs based on your VIP level.

Add in game selection and availability and it's easy to see why they do so much business.

I just wish they'd stick to a 1/2 structure at all limits tho.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

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For the everyday grinder they offer no rakeback promotion, and only at the highest vip levels do they offer nice perks. I understand the high volume of players makes the site very attractive to people who want to multi-table, but it seems like these players are missing out on very lucrative rakeback deals. Could somebody please fill me in if im overlooking some details of the vip packages at pokerstars, thanks.

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internet gambling is where you post this.
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:03 AM
timoK timoK is offline
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

in small stakes fix limit there were some posts about how much rake each site take. search for it.

brief overview:
rake at 2-4
stars: 2.4 BB/100
Party: 3.2 BB/100 (i am not exactly sure, but it's 3.xx)
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:40 AM
Noir_Desir Noir_Desir is offline
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

Exactly. Rake is significantly lower than on any other site except full tilt.
If you play 15k hands a month 3/6 you'll be platinum star, do this constantly and you are supernova. Platinum star already offers ~25% rakeback which is fine considering the competition on sites that offer more.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

And I believe as a supernova you get about 25% of that back in FPPs, right? So it's not a bad deal, actually. So that's 1.8 BB/100 then, equivalent to 43% RB at a party-like site. (even though 1.8 BB/100 is, of course, still a sick amount to pay. They generally make more than you do...)
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

supernova is 30% rakeback if you take 1500$ for points bundles.

if you do amazon or expedia vouchers it's even a bit more.


but whats the deal with 4x% party like site... i guess I need to have a PM [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

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supernova is 30% rakeback if you take 1500$ for points bundles.

if you do amazon or expedia vouchers it's even a bit more.


but whats the deal with 4x% party like site... i guess I need to have a PM [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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No, I just meant with 25% rb at stars you pay an equal absolute amount at party with 43% rb, because the stars rake is lower to start with. So I was comparing to the various, easily found, 30% RB deals on different rooms.

Of course it still can't compete with some 100% rb prop-deal.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:29 AM
MartynasD MartynasD is offline
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

don`t forget about fish.a lot of pure players in stars.if u loosing player in some of the sites,u might get wining one in stars.and if u make to supernova u will do ok with all your cash back,allso it`s free tourneys going every week 50k for supernova,and 20k for any of vip,in the end of the month another 50k for gold members.i`m usualy playing it simple.all in or nothing.and i`m finishing in money position a lot.as nobody playing it seriously.well stars is a choice
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: Why is it that pokerstars is such a popular site for online player

In my experience stars has by far the toughest competition...
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