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Old 01-30-2007, 05:35 PM
Sessna Sessna is offline
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Default 88 on bb, whats ur play here

this is from a 3r on stars. I keep moving tables so I do not know much about villains.





PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t37053)
MP1 (t36475)
MP2 (t12675)
MP3 (t18485)
CO (t33120)
Button (t9610)
SB (t31927)
Hero (t10320)
UTG (t11220)





Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t1200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero???
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

I shove this even without a read. The stage could not be set better for a squeeze play here. Calling for set value is fine too, but I think the squeeze is way more +EV.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

easy squeeze.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

Easiest AI eva.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

What if the initial raise came from MP or EP? Would that be a push too? I am asking 'cause I see that a lot and I don't know what to do usually.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

MP is where I would start needing a read. EP... no, I'm calling and seeing a flop.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

Depends on my read on the SB, since I'll go ahead and read the CO on a steal. The SB has me worried, and it should worry the CO as well, since he's calling out of position, so I will default to the thinking he's got a strong hand, AND a much bigger stack then us. We can end the pre-flop betting here, so I think a call is my decision, especially since now I do not act first, and if I spike a set, we're set to make a early christmas gift for ourselves.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: 88 on bb, whats ur play here

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I shove this even without a read. The stage could not be set better for a squeeze play here. Calling for set value is fine too, but I think the squeeze is way more +EV.

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If hero had 20k instead of 10k, is pushing bad?
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:44 PM
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The deeper we are, the worse it is. Pushing and winning right here represents an increase of about 1/3 of our stack. The deeper we are, the less the immediate increase without seeing a flop and the better our implied odds for just calling.

It's also less believable we push a premium hand when we're &gt;30BBs deep.

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