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Old 08-01-2007, 10:24 PM
Entee Entee is offline
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Default QQ against very tight passive villain gone aggro.

AA came to my mind the instant this villain made his first raise. He's been 11/2/0.67

Seat 1: Veke123 (58.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Balti1112 (69.88 in chips)
Seat 3: Kenn17022 (50.95 in chips)
Seat 4: spechm (64.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Dauphin_ (48.70 in chips)
Seat 6: BamMico22 (52 in chips)
Veke123: posts small blind 0.25
Balti1112: posts big blind 0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Veke123 [Qh Qc]
Kenn17022: calls 0.50
spechm: calls 0.50
Dauphin_: raises to 2.50
Veke123: raises to 8
Balti1112: folds
Kenn17022: folds
spechm: folds
Dauphin_: calls 5.50
----- FLOP ----- [2d 5h 7s]
Veke123: bets 12
Dauphin_: calls 12
----- TURN ----- [2d 5h 7s][2h]
Veke123: bets 38.50 and is all-in
Dauphin_: is all-in 28.70
Returned uncalled bets 9.80 to Veke123
----- RIVER ----- [2d 5h 7s 2h][8c]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Veke123: shows [Qh Qc] (Two Pairs, Queens and Twos, Eight high)
Dauphin_: shows [As Ac] (Two Pairs, Aces and Twos, Eight high)
Dauphin_ collected 95.90 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 98.90 Main pot 95.90 Rake 3
Board [2d 5h 7s 2h 8c]
Seat 1: Veke123 (small blind) showed [Qh Qc] and lost with Two Pairs, Queens and Twos, Eight high
Seat 2: Balti1112 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Kenn17022 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: spechm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Dauphin_ (button) showed [As Ac] and won (95.90) with Two Pairs, Aces and Twos, Eight high
****HAND ENDS****

All the time my "read" was he had AA but I kept hoping for tens or jacks. Very difficult to decide what to do here. Should I just have check/folded the turn or was I destined to get stacked?

Actually I had only 17 hands on the villain when this hand came up but I fealt strongly that he woudn't get aggressive without a very good hand.

Point is pretty much that I'd like to know if any good player would either just call pre flop and set mine or raise pre but just check/fold either on flop or turn with TT-QQ type hands against extremely tight passive opponent.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:36 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: QQ against very tight passive villain gone aggro.

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All the time my "read" was he had AA but I kept hoping for tens or jacks.

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This made me LOL at work.

If your "read" was he had AA, then why did you bet the flop/turn?
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: QQ against very tight passive villain gone aggro.

Yeah I think I overplayed grossly but where to slow down? Just call pre or give up flop? turn?
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:59 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: QQ against very tight passive villain gone aggro.

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AA came to my mind the instant this villain made his first raise

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Obviously fold to his PFR.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ against very tight passive villain gone aggro.

reraise preflop to narrow his ranges, then dumb when he reraises or if he calls just check down
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ against very tight passive villain gone aggro.

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AA came to my mind the instant this villain made his first raise

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Obviously fold to his PFR.

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imo obviously call if I'm sure he has AA.

Anyway after some thinking, best line would probably be to reraise preflop as was suggested and probably check/call flop and check/fold turn. Check/fold flop might be a bit weak because I assume he COULD bet AK or JJ there, but check down those hands after getting called.
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