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Old 07-28-2007, 11:35 AM
CASHius-Clay CASHius-Clay is offline
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Default Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.

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Fold preflop in hand one,
two is ok,
either raise or fold 3, limping is lighting money on fire

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I usually would fold hand1 preflop but with 2 limpers I think I can pay the 0.50 to see a flop. I'm getting 7:1. Or am I wrong??

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You may be getting 7 to 1 to see the flop but problem is its a reverse implied odds spot. The pots you win are going to be smaller than the ones you loose just cause you make alot of second best hands. Also its hard to play such a weak hand OOP, ie on a J high flop etc

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OK Thanks a lot
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.

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Alot of the value in suited connectors and one gappers comes from fold equity against tight players. It also builds the pot for when you do connect.

Edit: Sorry, wrong quote. Anyway you should be raising suited one gappers against limpers or folding- not limping behind.

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ok Thanks I will remember this
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:41 AM
Oki-Oki Oki-Oki is offline
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Default Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.

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Alot of the value in suited connectors and one gappers comes from fold equity against tight players. It also builds the pot for when you do connect.

Edit: Sorry, wrong quote. Anyway you should be raising suited one gappers against limpers or folding- not limping behind.

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ok Thanks I will remember this

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I agree in principal but there are obv exceptions ie if the limps never fold to a raise and cant fold top pair type hands postflop then there is huge value limping.

But overall being aggro vs limpers from late pos will print $$
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.

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Alot of the value in suited connectors and one gappers comes from fold equity against tight players. It also builds the pot for when you do connect.

Edit: Sorry, wrong quote. Anyway you should be raising suited one gappers against limpers or folding- not limping behind.

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ok Thanks I will remember this

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I agree in principal but there are obv exceptions ie if the limps never fold to a raise and cant fold top pair type hands postflop then there is huge value limping.

But overall being aggro vs limpers from late pos will print $$

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This explains most of what you need to know in regards to isolating. Its aimed at MSNL play but is very applicable
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=3661078

Also read the the SSNL master sticky
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: NL100 shottaking on FTP, some hand questions.

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Alot of the value in suited connectors and one gappers comes from fold equity against tight players. It also builds the pot for when you do connect.

Edit: Sorry, wrong quote. Anyway you should be raising suited one gappers against limpers or folding- not limping behind.

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ok Thanks I will remember this

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I agree in principal but there are obv exceptions ie if the limps never fold to a raise and cant fold top pair type hands postflop then there is huge value limping.

But overall being aggro vs limpers from late pos will print $$

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This explains most of what you need to know in regards to isolating. Its aimed at MSNL play but is very applicable
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=3661078

Also read the the SSNL master sticky

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Thanks for the Link
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