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Old 10-06-2007, 08:14 PM
BubbleMint BubbleMint is offline
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Default I feel compelled to follow through on river.

Button is on tilt and has been LRR a lot, I didnt feel like tangling with him in a big pot with my hand.
Against a limping button I would normally raise this hand, standard ?

BB is new to the game, I have no reads.

Full Tilt 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, K.
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) J, 2, 3 [color=#0000FF](4 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 3 [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

Without the improvement on the turn, I mix between b/f and c/f.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

why would you ever b/f the turn here?
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

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why would you ever b/f the turn here?

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Without the improvement, so if turn was 8s for example.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

you have four hearts
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

You cannot bet/fold any turn and HAVE to bet it. River is a very reasonable card to 3 barrell at, although there is a strong chance you were bluffing with the best hand.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

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Without the improvement on the turn, I mix between b/f and c/f.

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Say you bet and he raises. How many outs do you have and whats your odds?

Serious question here. Do you even know the concept of pot odds and outs?
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:36 PM
BryanC BryanC is offline
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

Id say bet/call any turn if he raises your getting a good enough price to call and he will likely put in another BB on the river too when you hit your flush so bet/folding is awful IMO
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:46 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

Im just going to assume the bit about b/f;ing the turn was a typo. Basically, when you bet this river, youre trying to fold out the nut flush draw. You have enough showdown value to check. Raise pf too.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

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Without the improvement on the turn, I mix between b/f and c/f.

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Say you bet and he raises. How many outs do you have and whats your odds?

Serious question here. Do you even know the concept of pot odds and outs?

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Clean outs I believe I have a grip on, it is with discounting outs that I struggle.

If I bet and he raises,

I believe I have 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] outs, with one over card on board I must discount my 10 outs, so instead of 3 it is fair to discount to 1.5, also I have 3 Kings again discounted to 1.5.

I make 12 outs from 46 so ~1/4 of the deck is an out.

I am asked to put less than 1/4 into the pot if I c/c or b/c, so mathmatically my reasoning has been proven to be wrong.

Thankfully I joined 2+2 to learn and not teach.

Now my floored thinking aside, are you liking the river bet ?
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: I feel compelled to follow through on river.

dude!

You have a OESD and a fd + a overcard. If you bet and get raised you are getting 5.5:1 with a million outs. Please dont bet/fold
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