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Old 08-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Luckyspikes Luckyspikes is offline
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Default NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

No read on the vilain, it's his 4th hand at the table

Thanks in advance for all your comments.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.15
UTG+1: $3.50
UTG+2: $13.75
Luckyspikes: $19.90
MP2: $10.80
MP3: $7.85
CO: $25.82
Button: $20.70
SB: $5.05
BB: $18.20

Pre-flop: (10 players) Luckyspikes is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.2 <font color="blue">(pot was $0.3)</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#red">Luckyspikes raises to $0.8</font>, MP2 calls $0.8 <font color="blue">(pot was $1.3)</font>, 2 folds, Button calls $0.8 <font color="blue">(pot was $2.1)</font>, 3 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2.9, 3 players)
<font color="#red">Luckyspikes bets $2.75</font>, MP2 folds, Button calls $2.75 <font color="blue">(pot was $5.65)</font>.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.4, 2 players)
<font color="#red">Luckyspikes bets $6</font>, <font color="#red">Button raises all-in $17.15</font>, Luckyspikes ????

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Old 08-13-2007, 04:55 PM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

Yikes, doesn't look very good. Seems hard to believe you are ahead, but it's kinda hard to fold too. I wonder if checking the turn for pot control might have been a better line...

As played, you probably have to go with what your experience is for default villians at this level. Are they apt to do this with something you beat? Seems like this might be a fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:26 PM
leatangclan leatangclan is offline
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

As I learned the hard way, it's usually what they advertized at this level. So without read, I would have to assume villan hit his trips. If it's me I would fold here. Other than that, your lines seem fine.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:30 PM
Larude Larude is offline
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

This is a very easy fold against an unknown...
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:37 PM
Luckyspikes Luckyspikes is offline
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

What do i do if i check the turn and vilain bet pot size bet ?
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:37 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

Would he call the flop on a draw, then push the turn giving you 1.8:1 pot odds? Without a read, this feels like a hand that slow played a strong hand on the flop despite the flush draw on the board, and is now trying to real you in. Against an unknown who calls the cb and then pushes the seeminly blank turn, I think you are behind more than 70% of the time, so you can fold without a read to indicate that he might be doing this with AQ or a draw.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:43 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

Baluga Theorem says you are beat. I have not been a fan of the Theorem but learning is painful.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

Is my turn bet OK to get called by weaker hands (AQ / AJ) ?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: NL20 : AK TPTK facing turn raise AI

without knowing the villain, i'd play the way you've played (including the turn bet) and i'd fold his allin.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:11 AM
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Baluga Theorem says you are beat. I have not been a fan of the Theorem but learning is painful.

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