WTF!?!?!?

[Perestroika]

Villain seems pretty competent and has not really gotten out of line with three betting preflop leading me to believe he has AA here slightly greater than your average HU game warrants. On the river, the all-in was basically in the pot without ANY thought. It was as if the river did not matter bc he was shoving no matter what. I have not played long enough to decipher what this could mean, anyone? Also I had no f'ing idea what the right play was, I basically felt retarted on every street except preflop. Also the game flow felt like their was a def possibility of just pure bluff, so its my earlier lines that I am really questioning, that lead me to this spot.


FullTiltPoker Game #3731949910: Table Pang (heads up) - $1/$2 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:49:22 ET - 2007/10/02
Seat 1: DeresAlwaysHope ($314.50)
Seat 2: poiuytrews ($326.80)
DeresAlwaysHope posts the small blind of $1
poiuytrews posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeresAlwaysHope [Ts 9d 9s Jh]
DeresAlwaysHope raises to $6
poiuytrews raises to $18
DeresAlwaysHope calls $12
*** FLOP *** [9c 7c As]
poiuytrews bets $36
DeresAlwaysHope calls $36
*** TURN *** [9c 7c As] [Kh]
poiuytrews bets $86
DeresAlwaysHope calls $86
*** RIVER *** [9c 7c As Kh] [3c]
poiuytrews bets $186.80, and is all in
DeresAlwaysHope has 15 seconds left to act
DeresAlwaysHope has requested TIME

P.S- I'm unrealistically computer brain-dead so if anyone could explain how to use the hand converter, i.e- do you just copy and paste, or what basically because I plan on contributing many more hands in the future but I realize that this format is unbearable so that also would be awesome, thanks.

[jbird]

he's not bluffing, he's taking you to valuetown -- he's praying you made a smaller flush or will call him with middle set.

I'd raise flop and fold to a 3 bet.

There are all sorts of converters -- look at any thread with a converted hand and there will be a link at the top. From there on it is pretty self-explanatory....

[sqwisssssss]

i think jmans raise flop and fold to a 3 bet is optimal but as played, my god man, fold the turn, if not then the river is an easy fold.

[Perestroika]

Really fold turn? I have shown nothing but weakness, my c/c on flop can easily be draw, and almost always never a set. AK plays same way imo, plus I have an open ender. Also raise and fold to a 3 bet? I guess a smaller raise would do the trick that way I'm not putting in 50% of my stack only to be folded out from nut flush draw. Also if this is an EASY fold, then it seems like a pretty solid play is to rr preflop and then pot every single street if an ace hits.

[jbird]

If I just called flop I'm definitely calling turn barring some ninja AA read, but I'm still folding river as played.

[sqwisssssss]

true that, i didnt see you have an open ender on turn. stack off on turn or flop then. your right, villan could play top pair with flush draw the same way.......but i'd be surprised if you didnt lose on river, turn or flop.

personally, i just cant see how your not beat on river at least.

[Perestroika]

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true that, i didnt see you have an open ender on turn. stack off on turn or flop then. your right, villan could play top pair with flush draw the same way.......but i'd be surprised if you didnt lose on river, turn or flop.

personally, i just cant see how your not beat on river at least.

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FullTiltPoker Game #3732002142: Table Pang (heads up) - $1/$2 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:56:49 ET - 2007/10/02
Seat 1: DeresAlwaysHope ($378.50)
Seat 2: poiuytrews ($326.65)
poiuytrews posts the small blind of $1
DeresAlwaysHope posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeresAlwaysHope [6h 4c Qs 7c]
poiuytrews raises to $6
DeresAlwaysHope calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Ah 2d 5c]
DeresAlwaysHope checks
poiuytrews bets $12
DeresAlwaysHope raises to $48
poiuytrews calls $36
*** TURN *** [Ah 2d 5c] [Jd]
DeresAlwaysHope bets $108
poiuytrews calls $108
*** RIVER *** [Ah 2d 5c Jd] [2c]
DeresAlwaysHope bets $216.50, and is all in
poiuytrews folds
Uncalled bet of $216.50 returned to DeresAlwaysHope
DeresAlwaysHope mucks
DeresAlwaysHope wins the pot ($323.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $324 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ah 2d 5c Jd 2c]
Seat 1: DeresAlwaysHope (big blind) collected ($323.50), mucked
Seat 2: poiuytrews (small blind) folded on the River

Just want to show you that sometimes you do not really need a big hand. I mean the way he bet the river was just so odd. He insta potted it without thought, to me that was indication of either the NUT FLUSH or pure NO PAIR OBV I CANNOT WIN THIS POT BET.

[sqwisssssss]

not to be a smart ass but why didnt you snap call him then?

personally, i think its -ev. i guess you'll catch some people with air in those spots but i think more times than not, you will be paying off. your right, its either nut flush or air. i know i would play nut flush the same way too because it looks like a bluff all in.

i prefer to find out early rather than later......but thats just me.

[Ribbo]

Raise all-in on the turn please. Jeez.

If you're calling that turn bet then you're def calling the river if it blanks so raise now. Charge him for his draw.
He could easily have AK here or just a draw.

[Burdzthewurd]

As played, fold river.

Make it like $100 on flop and fold to a 3-bet if he isn't getting out of line. You'd be surprised what hands even nits 3-bet HU though.