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Old 09-19-2007, 05:51 PM
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hes 60/11/1(80)

now what?
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:54 PM
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Call, he's giving you nice odds - no reason to get crazy here.
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:00 PM
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Call, he's giving you nice odds - no reason to get crazy here.

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Old 09-19-2007, 06:03 PM
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ok, so in what situations are u getting crazy?
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:06 PM
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Get crazy when you're not against calling stations and you have some FE. Most 60/11s will pay you out so often when your draw hits anyway there's no need to take a flip or something like that.
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:09 PM
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if turn bricks and he bets above 1/2 pot, assuming 0 fe i should fold in this situation?
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:10 PM
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and call < 1/2 pot bet?
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:28 PM
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I agree with checktheriver. I would hope that it'd be fairly evident if villain is a calling station or not, but I'm not so sure I like the min-raise call.

First of all, he's got position on you, and on top of that, if you call, you give momentum to him, making things even more difficult. Secondly, if you call, the reasonable things he can put you on, given that you already lead out on the flop, are a pair with OK kicker or a draw, which you are on. Either that or you are slow playing a set, but that's probably not a good idea considering the straight draw and flush draw on the flop.

Going crazy and raising would make the decision much more difficult for him. Why is this?

If villain has a made hand, he'll probably think very little about going crazy himself if he has 33, TT, or JJ. But don't you think given your preflop raise, he would fold 33 and re-raise you with TT and JJ? I would tend to discount those possibilities.

If you raise here, again, he's got to account for many more possibilities, since you opened preflop. Are you holding a set already? Maybe you have a nut flush draw? Maybe you've got a pair with a good kicker? Maybe you're looking for a straight? Maybe you've got overcards?

I think the raise here is a better play.
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