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11-22-2007, 12:59 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
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A) Depends on stacks to pot ratio, and previous action but say 99,88,44 TJc, 67c,56c,AKc, 89s QQ+ Does that work ? Now let me think about the ne xt questions. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's a good start. BTW, the range you chose is a bit too tight for an unknown IMO. 
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#2
11-22-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
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[ QUOTE ] A) Depends on stacks to pot ratio, and previous action but say 99,88,44 TJc, 67c,56c,AKc, 89s QQ+ Does that work ? Now let me think about the ne xt questions. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that's a good start. BTW, the range you chose is a bit too tight for an unknown IMO. [/ QUOTE ] yes, its way too tight and our equity is great since any better hands raise that flop, same goes with a9 except for the times when he plays TT passively pre-flop and post-flop.
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#6
11-22-2007, 02:22 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
60 and 68
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#7
11-22-2007, 02:29 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
The question of a typical player's range does depend on the game: whether it is online/live, what casino/site, what time of day, previous action at table, etc.
I guess my range was a bit more narrow than DevinLake's. Part A is fairly subjective depending on what typical is. With the range he gave, I would guess AA is about 70% and A9 about 65%. He's right: there are more hands that A9 is dominating and so the equities in the two hands would be closer than they were in my range.
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#8
11-22-2007, 03:49 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
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TT,99,88,77,66,55,44 9X,8X,98,94,84 XcYc 67,7T,JT,JQ Range changes based on what he'd call PF with but w.e this seems fine to me. B) 68% C) 73% D) - A9 having more outs to improve than AA - A9 limiting the no. of combinations of 2pairs or sets villain could have
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#9
11-23-2007, 01:48 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
Alright, I'll give my 'answers' now.
A)I should have been a bit more clear in the OP about this. But assuming that we open in OTB, and he calls in the BB. case 1: He doesn't slowplay two pair or TT-KK on the flop (normal play here). So I'd put him on 77-55, A9, T9, K9s-J9s (prob folds the offsuit versions), T8s, 97s, 76s, JT, QJ, Axs (down to A7s or A2s doesn't matter much in terms of effecting equity), and the broadway club hands (KQcc etc). Given that, using pokerstove you get AA ~ 74% equity A9 ~66% equity That's actually a pretty big difference. Reasons are that AA has more equity against two pair (not that important since its hard to get two pair or better!), and more importantly AA kills 'overcard outs' against the flush or straight draw hands. . case 2: Now assume that villain plays tricky and can c/c the stronger hands of 98/sets/TT-KK. Then we get AA equity ~ 70% A9 equity ~ 52% Now a huge difference. So even though we can now sometimes be against 'strong' hands, AA is still pretty damn good. Eliminate TT-KK from villains range but keep two pair/sets, and AA goes down to 65%, which still beats 58% for A9. I guess we can take a few things out of this thread. Even though at first glance AA looks the same as A9, it is significantly stronger. AA is less vulnerable, and hence you bet purely for value. Where as with the A9 its for value and also protection (you don't mind if a hand with decent equity folds since they will often make up some of the deficit with implied odds). Now if the question was what do if check/raised on that board, then again equity would help us to a decision. AA dominates his c/r range (if he c/r clubs and str8 draws as well as 9x from time to time), and so we love getting it all-in on the flop before either scare cards hit or they suck out. But suppose we get c/r holding A9 there. Then getting AI is still not that bad, but calling and stacking off on blank turns (any non club 8-2, and J/T probably) would be a better play to punish his draws and also get away on bad cards that are likely to help him.
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#10
11-22-2007, 01:25 AM
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Re: Quick quiz
A) J9o, T9o, T8o, 87o, 77, 66, 55, 33, 22, Axcc, KTcc+, QTcc+, SC clubs, JTo, 76o, A9o.
Plus all the monsters, TT+, sets and 2prs. But, I'd discount them some because he'll re-raise TT+ quite a bit pre and will raise the flop with monster a lot of the time as well. Because of this, I'd think A9 would have similar equity. Also, because I feel people peel so light on these type boards, I double barrel them a lot with or without a made hand.
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