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check/call 1 8.33%
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  #2631  
Old 11-25-2007, 06:31 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villain is 22/8/2.8

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NL Holdem $1(BB) I-Poker Game#736033054

Sophia123 ($96.85)
banega ($133.35)
Firetribe ($108.50)
ernmeister ($110.95)
james58 ($148.93)

Sophia123 posts (SB) $0.50
banega posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Ad Ah
Firetribe raises to $3.50
fold, fold, fold, call,

FLOP ($7.50) 9s 5s Th
check,
Firetribe bets $6.50
banega calls $6.50

TURN ($20.50) 9s 5s Th Ts
check, check,

RIVER ($20.50) 9s 5s Th Ts 6s
banega bets $10
Firetribe folds
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Ugly spot but I might call just to see what he has. I don't know if he bluffs often enough for that particular call to be profitable, but sometimes I like to pay to see what he'll have here.

He will be bluffing some small % of the time so its not a hugely -ev spot. The positives are I use the info I get from the call both to get to know what the opponent is doing, and I use it for my own image.
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  #2633  
Old 11-25-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

I bet the turn. As played, I never fold to a 1/2 pot river bet when I checked behind the turn.
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  #2634  
Old 11-25-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

villain is 85/0/0/13 hands

how's my line on all streets? ok to call river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($17.85)
MP1 ($7.55)
Hero ($55.45)
CO ($23.90)
Button ($19.85)
SB ($28.20)
BB ($24.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, CO calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, CO folds, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10.

River: ($30.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10.25 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $10.25.

Final Pot: $50.60
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 18/14/4.45 in 779 hands (mostly from data mining), but my image is very LAG at this table. This guy has noticed how I'm playing and has 3 bet me quite a few times when I couldn't call.

I have never taken this line before, but thought it might be good in this situation. How's it look?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $172.95
SB: $113.20
BB: $215.35
UTG: $46.15
Hero (CO): $95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $10.50

Flop: ($29.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $81 and is All-In</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

With a laggy image, I just 4-bet this pre.

Being that you called, I like the way you played the flop.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:48 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
villain is 85/0/0/13 hands

how's my line on all streets? ok to call river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($17.85)
MP1 ($7.55)
Hero ($55.45)
CO ($23.90)
Button ($19.85)
SB ($28.20)
BB ($24.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, CO calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, CO folds, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10.

River: ($30.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10.25 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $10.25.

Final Pot: $50.60

[/ QUOTE ]

We are getting a really sick price, but it looks like villain got there on the river.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Dr. J,

What King Car said, but I think the price is too sick to fold when you only have 13 hands on villain.

Previous streets look fine.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.65
UTG+1: $49.75
CO: $103.50
Hero: $98.50
SB: $145.85
BB: $114.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $12</font>, Hero ???

SB is 25/8/3.0 over 150 hands. I'm done with this, right?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

[ QUOTE ]
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.65
UTG+1: $49.75
CO: $103.50
Hero: $98.50
SB: $145.85
BB: $114.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $12</font>, Hero ???

SB is 25/8/3.0 over 150 hands. I'm done with this, right?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm calling this and some bets on most rivers (foldin A rivers since often this is A9 or A6 or something). Leak?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:48 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.65
UTG+1: $49.75
CO: $103.50
Hero: $98.50
SB: $145.85
BB: $114.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $12</font>, Hero ???

SB is 25/8/3.0 over 150 hands. I'm done with this, right?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm calling this and some bets on most rivers (foldin A rivers since often this is A9 or A6 or something). Leak?

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Well, my thoughts were something like this. There's only two things it could be that are consistent with the action so far. One is a set that has lost it's nerve and is worried I won't bet the turn with a flush draw. The other is a flush draw like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. In either case, calling isn't the best play.
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