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Old 06-05-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default good draw facing a ton of heat

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($29.50)
CO ($33.80)
Hero ($90)
SB ($98.85)
BB ($53.75)
UTG ($70.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, Hero ???

god i need to stop being lazy and just get pt. villian seems like a solid TAG and i've been active cuz I had a lot of good cards.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

I for one propose a new bill that requires players to fold to UTG raises with suited one gappers OTB. SRSLY this is spew IMO and totally avoidable.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

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I for one propose a new bill that requires players to fold to UTG raises with suited one gappers OTB. SRSLY this is spew IMO and totally avoidable.

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yea yea fold pre-flop w/e. as played?
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

You say villian seems like a solid TAG, so here is a range I assigned him with your equity. Feel free to correct my range if needed. I even threw in the random air. But looks like a foldski to me.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

69,300 games 0.094 secs 737,234 games/sec

Board: 6c 4c 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.449% 44.87% 00.58% 31096 400.50 { 9c7c }
Hand 1: 54.551% 53.97% 00.58% 37403 400.50 { 33+, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, KcQc, T3o }
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

I just call the flop bet.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:06 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

Calling preflop isn't a spew, especially once cutoff comes along.

The flop raise is another story.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

yea i think just calling the flop bet is best.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

"villian seems like a solid TAG" why do we want to get $ in pf with 79cc with a solid TAG? I understand that we are IP but theres not many flops that we hit hard that a "solid TAG" is going to pay us off for.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:18 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

Because you're only putting 4bb's in, you've got position, you know he's a solid TAG, and hopefully you have a clue postflop. Therefore you should be able to calculate his range and know when you have enough fold equity to take the pot down, add that in with some deceptive hand-implied odds and you have yourself a winner.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: good draw facing a ton of heat

interesting argument between calling and raising the flop.

i would be more inclined to call the flop with something like Ax[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and hope for an overcall/lesser flushes to come along.

i dont mind the flop raise here. you isolate the better and you may knock out some better draws (maybe Jx[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] would fold or something like that). plus it disguises your hand (i think youve shown a ton of strength raising the pfr/flop better).

anyways, what do you guys think about call the $14 and fold turn UI/shove if we do?
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