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Old 10-22-2007, 03:51 PM
Maksim Maksim is offline
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Default NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

There is no stats on him. It was 9th hand at the table. And no reads on him. The board is rather coordinated. Would you 3bet it\call\ or just fold it on the flop?

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Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $60.20
CO: $79.50
Hero: $50.00
SB: $62.65
BB: $75.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, 3 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $35</font>,

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Old 10-22-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

do we get any cards?
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

AQ=TPTK
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

in that case i'm not sure, its a tough spot, minraises can be anything. playing for stacks here is a bit lose, doubt he's got an overpair but looks loads like a set.

I think tho, if you fold on the turn, then you shouldn't call the flop, what're you hoping will come. then i'm not folding TPTK there, i prob 3-bet, but then we're essentially allin.

really tough spot, i prefered it when we didn't have cards, easy fold then
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

I want to ask you to give me your line about this and similar case: erything is like in this hand, but opponent is 50\18\5 and he is betting turn 1\2 of the pot. It was some days ago w\ me. And it was a tough to me too.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

I would probably fold here. Min raises are usually a strong holding altho not always, but then he overbets the turn. You are getting less than 2:1 on your money and Im really not sure youre good here that often.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

I folded in OP hand. But I dont confident in my fold when LA player bets 1\2 of the pot, as I write higher.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

vs 50/x/5 and a half pot turn bet, think i probably push over the top, and reload about 1/2 the time. this situations a case of WA or WB and about 50/50, but with the money in the pot its +EV imo
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:47 AM
anthb7210p anthb7210p is offline
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

you are definitly beat here, I would call the flop raise if he is in position because a lot of people will play draw that way, since hes OOP you prob want to fold to flop minraise
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: NL 50: TPTK in position c\\r on the flop

I always seem to call the flop here and end up folding the turn when i'm lead into strong, so I always regret calling the flop.

So from my experiences i'll say fold the flop unless you have some major reads telling you otherwise.
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