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Old 08-10-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: AKo UTG with preflop action

Yeh, probably the fold is better. I figured I had to go allin against Thay3r, as AK is way at the top of my UTG raising range. Probably should have taken the time to reevaluate the situation after the push. It also may have been reads that neither player had a big pair.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:03 AM
Foucault Foucault is offline
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Default Re: AKo UTG with preflop action

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Yeh, probably the fold is better. I figured I had to go allin against Thay3r, as AK is way at the top of my UTG raising range. Probably should have taken the time to reevaluate the situation after the push. It also may have been reads that neither player had a big pair.

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What read was that? You don't think Thayer reraises KK+ and you don't think SB 4-bet shoves them cold? Against just Thayer sticking it in is fine, but when SB gets involved, it doesn't much matter than AK is at the top of your range.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: AKo UTG with preflop action

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Yeh, probably the fold is better. I figured I had to go allin against Thay3r, as AK is way at the top of my UTG raising range. Probably should have taken the time to reevaluate the situation after the push. It also may have been reads that neither player had a big pair.

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What read was that? You don't think Thayer reraises KK+ and you don't think SB 4-bet shoves them cold? Against just Thayer sticking it in is fine, but when SB gets involved, it doesn't much matter than AK is at the top of your range.

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But he really, really didn't want them to have a big pair.
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:07 PM
uclabruinz uclabruinz is offline
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Default Re: AKo UTG with preflop action

I agree it's a fold, although not sure I make it.

I also want to know how to develop a read in this situation that neither has a big pair.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: AKo UTG with preflop action

Edit: Wow, when using pokerstove, remember to clear the board you typed in for the last hand you were looking at.

All my numbers were way off, and pretty much obviates my whole post.

Instead, I guess I'll just ask, is SB's range pretty much TT+, AK?
If SB folds, is Betgo's pushing range pretty much TT+,AK?
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