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Old 05-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Colonel Ingus Colonel Ingus is offline
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I've played about 60,000 hands of O8 and I have never been dealt quads (eg. 2222, AAAA). Was curious to see how many people have been dealt quads and how many hands you've played.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:44 AM
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twice so far in about 5k hands online (with screenshots of both, to boot! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:52 AM
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OK here you go.

2006 = 330k hands

AAAA=2;
K,Q,T,9,6,5,3,2 = 1 EACH;
8888=2;
JJJJ=4;
7777=5;
4444= ZERO

2007 = 73K HANDS

AAAA=1
9999=1
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:01 PM
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This is a timely thread for me. I had been quadless in nearly 3 years of play (and 700K hands) until Sunday, when I was dealt quad 7's on WPX. Then last night I was dealt quad 10's on FTP.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:37 PM
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Why does this happen to me in Omaha (4 cards) but never in Carribean Stud (5 cards)?
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:17 PM
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Odds of being dealt quads are one in 20825 (I think... 3/51 * 2/50 * 1/49).
So odds of being dealt no quads in a stretch of N hands are
(20824/20825)^N, which for large N is closely approximated by

1 / (e ^ (N/20825))

So the odds of being quadless over 60K hands are one in (e ^ 2.88) or roughly one in 18.
The odds of being quadless over 700K hands are substantially less than the odds that you either meant to type 70K hands or are misremembering your results.

The expected (average) number of quads is obviously N/20825. And for sufficiently large N, the standard deviation in the observed number is roughly equal to the square root of the expected number. So getting quads 21 times out of 330K hands, instead of the expected 16 times, is a little more than one SD above average.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:24 PM
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Had it 3 times, once with aces and twice with queens.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:40 PM
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Colonel - Four times.

The probability of getting dealt quads is 13/270725. Flipping that fraction, (20,825), you should get dealt quads once every twenty thousand hands or so.

I've also been dealt AA23-double-suited four times, scooped twice, split once, and lost once. The probability of getting dealt the ideal hand is very close to the probability of getting dealt quads, 12/270725, once every twenty two thousand or twenty three thousand hands or so.

I have no true idea of how many hands were involved.

Four is too small a sample size to multiply by how often you should get dealt the hand to come up with the true number of hands played. However, taken together with other estimates, eighty thousand to one humdred thousand seems a ball-park figure for the number of hands of Omaha-8 I have played.

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Old 05-02-2007, 04:48 PM
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Buzz,

For someone who doesn't play online, that's some recall. Tell me you take notes?
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:46 PM
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I play a lot of video poker. Dealt quads should come roughly every 3-4 hours (1200 hph). The best quads I have ever been dealt was for $12K, AAAA. I was also dealt quads twice on pickem poker, where you are dealt 4 cards and must discard exactly 1 card. Trips pays 5:1, so not a total loss, but not as good as 600:1 for quads.

Last week, quad JJJJ got beaten in the Taj 15/30 game. The Jack on the turn was the perfect one-outer for both players, making a Royal for for the winner.

Effen
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