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Old 09-10-2007, 07:24 PM
atti atti is offline
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Default overpair again

hmmmm i dont beat anything against villain 17/13/4.5 on that turn right ?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($97.26)
SB ($169.37)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($122.18)
MP ($110.88)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, Button calls $5, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $16.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($49.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34</font>, MP calls $34.

Turn: ($117.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $45</font>, Hero calls $99 (All-In).

River: ($207.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $207.50
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:29 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: overpair again

you have half your stack in by the turn and you have an over pair, just bet the rest of it.

sure, you're beat by a set of Qs or Js often, but hands like TT, 99, and AJs could also be in his range here.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: overpair again

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Old 09-11-2007, 05:26 AM
atti atti is offline
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Default Re: overpair again

but what hand can we put a 17/13 villain on ?
he will call a reraise PF with QQ+ imo and everything beats me on this board...best case is KK -&gt; split.
AJ would fold the most time PF. AQ would not have called the cbet or?
and AK would hardly call that Cbet too...
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:32 AM
Irishman07 Irishman07 is offline
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Default Re: overpair again

tough spot and i think you are behind a decent amount of the time but i just don't see how you can get away from the hand. folding is just too nitty and exploitable i think. i like your c/raising here because it gives the opponent a chance to bluff and adding air to his range certainly helps you out a lot.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: overpair again

[ QUOTE ]
but what hand can we put a 17/13 villain on ?
he will call a reraise PF with QQ+ imo and everything beats me on this board...best case is KK -&gt; split.
AJ would fold the most time PF. AQ would not have called the cbet or?
and AK would hardly call that Cbet too...

[/ QUOTE ]
you're like always behind.Everyone says you shouldn't fold because you've got half your stack in but I'm not so sure I agree....
Btw I always shove turn
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:23 PM
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nh
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