UB weirdly rigged? - Page 3

MicroBob · #21 10-15-2007, 12:18 PM

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I'm a whacko because I notice this?

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you are no different than a lot of other players online or even in live-play who notice such things?
Some people are just naturally predisposed to finding reasons why the site might be rigged I think and it's a topic that continues to fascinate me.

I think it's kind of whacko to look at such isolated stuff and not just laugh at the silly variance of the game but you're not alone in getting suspicious about the way the cards run in poker that is almost certainly something not worth getting suspicious about.

How many 33 vs. 22 set over set's have you had? I was on the losing end of one of those yesterday but haven't been on the winning end of one for quite awhile. Should I start to worry?
I've also been noticing a lot more all-spade flops recently so I'm thinking that any chance to play 2 spades might be +EV.
At my local, live casino I've seen a lot of 4's on the flop lately. Even the dealers were commenting on it. Pretty obvious stuff. Seems that playing any 4 such as T4o or something stands a pretty good chance to flop trips.

vaughn345 · #22 10-15-2007, 12:59 PM

my homegame is rigged every few weeks so that a bunch of suckouts happen. i don't know who is doing it.

ShortStack03 · #23 10-15-2007, 01:37 PM

FullTilt seems to be running just fine. 2nd hand of the tournament I'm playing my AA beats KK. 2 hands later, my KK loses to AA. Both times all-in preflop.

CUonCRUISE · #24 10-15-2007, 03:00 PM

I play thousands of tournies on all the sites ad I have always said Ultimate throws AA KK together all day long. Nearly every final table I have there it happens.

The other day at the second table 2 limpers I pop it with KK, SB all in, BB all in, 1st limper all in, I fold my KK. They had QQ KK AA. Just another ordinary day at UB. I considered myself lucky the AA didn't open raise or I would have been toast.

Rek · #25 10-15-2007, 04:14 PM

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I play thousands of tournies on all the sites ad I have always said Ultimate throws AA KK together all day long. Nearly every final table I have there it happens.

The other day at the second table 2 limpers I pop it with KK, SB all in, BB all in, 1st limper all in, I fold my KK. They had QQ KK AA. Just another ordinary day at UB. I considered myself lucky the AA didn't open raise or I would have been toast.

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So lets get this straight. You say UB throw AAvKK together all the time therefore rigged. OP says UB never throw AAvKK together therefore rigged. Why don't you and the OP sit at the same table then the world order should be restored.

MicroBob · #26 10-15-2007, 06:30 PM

dude, it's obvious that UB is making up for the overabundance of AAvKK in the tourneys by yanking them from the NL10 games.

That way when you do a survey of AAvKK on the site as a whole it ends up looking normal.

Tyrant-_-Lizard · #27 10-15-2007, 11:01 PM

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Each hand played perfectly other than the top full house versus a straight flush hand where I (correctly) did not raise with my top set until the board paired.

Go back to Beginners Questions, loser.

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I don't know nor care about the chances of not being involved in AA vs. KK in 20k hands.
But I do know that your contention that you played all your hands perfectly is not correct in the slightest nor is it in the least bit relevant.
People who make automatic assumptions about how they played their hands perfectly usually aren't very good at poker imo.

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I specifically chose hands where my play is not really debatable so no one could say "lol you play bad guaranteed."
People are real [censored] about this kind of thing so I didn't want to give them any ammunition.

There are a million nasty beats and cold decks I could have posted where my play ranges from god awful to debatable.

Is there a specific hand you want to call me out on? Should I post them one at a time so the whole forum can rip them apart?

Here's the first hand. You say my contention that I played all but one of these hands perfectly is "not correct in the slightest." I'm really interested to know how I could improve my play in this hand.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($32.75)
MP2 ($20.15)
MP3 ($49.50)
CO ($19.90)
Button ($65.95)
SB ($25.45)
BB ($12.10)
UTG ($25.20)
UTG+1 ($16.50)
Hero ($61.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, CO calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, Joey calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($7.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $6, CO folds, Button raises to $12, Hero raises to $42, Button calls $30.

Turn: ($91.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $17.4 (All-In), Button calls $17.40.

River: ($0) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $126.55

Results in white below: 
Button has Kd Ac (straight, ace high).
SB has (straight, ace high).
Hero has Jh Js (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins $126.55.

PBJaxx · #28 10-16-2007, 12:18 AM

Honestly, LOL @ anyone who actually thinks they play hands "perfectly" in 100bb+ NL poker.

Tyrant-_-Lizard · #29 10-16-2007, 03:19 AM

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Honestly, LOL @ anyone who actually thinks they play hands "perfectly" in 100bb+ NL poker.

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Folded around to small blind who pushes for 100bb. You are in the big blind with AA and also 100bb. There isn't a perfect play in this situation?

You are a retard.

QED

MaddyBerg · #30 10-16-2007, 04:31 AM

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I can't remember having AA v KK or KK v AA preflop once...

...I went to showdown with AK v AA three times, AK v KK twice, AA v AK once, and KK v AK twice.

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It actually kinda sounds like you DO remember having these hands.

If I understand correctly, your issue is that ALL of you AA vs. KK hands go to showdown?

If this is the case, I have the solution.

1.) Stop playing fixe limit
2.) Press the "raise" button preflop