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Old 11-14-2007, 05:53 PM
Meraxes Meraxes is offline
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Default Live 1/3 NL hand

I'm definitely still learning NL, so criticism of any kind is welcome (and expected.)

I started this hand with $210, in the CO. Villain has $115 in MP.

Villain I haven't played with much, but he's been drinking, and doesn't seem especially good or bad.

I'm dealt J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (in the CO).
One EP and two MP limpers, I limp, SB calls, BB checks.

Pot is $15 (6 players)
Flop comes J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Checked to villain, who bets $15, other MP calls, I raise to 45. Folds back to villain who goes all in for $70 more, other MP folds, pot is $190, $70 to me.

Call or no? I'll reveal the results later if I get any responses.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/3 NL hand

I would call, assuming that i have 10 outs, maybe 11-13.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/3 NL hand

u have a bunch of outs, you're commited and there's still a small chance that you're ahead (in case opponent is a donk of course). CALL
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/3 NL hand

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pot is $190, $70 to me.


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I hate chasing straight draws (I'm assuming the J is no good here by itself) on flush draw boards because so often you find that not all your outs are good. But still for this price, against an all in you have to call here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/3 NL hand

Super easy call.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:52 PM
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call fo sho
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:00 PM
TJ Eckleburg12 TJ Eckleburg12 is offline
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Default Re: Live 1/3 NL hand

Easy call.

The reason combo hands (pair + draw) are so awesome is they have a ton of equity against any kind of hand. We have 8 straight outs, but also trips + two pair outs to beat overpairs. The only hand you're in BAD shape to is QT.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:10 PM
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Easy call.

The reason combo hands (pair + draw) are so awesome is they have a ton of equity against any kind of hand. We have 8 straight outs, but also trips + two pair outs to beat overpairs. The only hand you're in BAD shape to is QT.

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Yeah, I'm willing to bet some good money that villain had QT.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:32 PM
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I'm not sure if I love raising it here with his stack size but once you do it's a

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Super easy call.

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Old 11-14-2007, 10:46 PM
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I'm not sure if I love raising it here with his stack size but once you do it's a

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Super easy call.

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I felt like I might be able to get hands like QJ, KJ, or some weak drawing hands to fold. Maybe I was being overly optimistic. Anyone else recommend flat calling the $15?
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