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Old 03-07-2006, 04:26 AM
Double Eagle Double Eagle is offline
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Default (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

Villain is a very good 2+2er. Any other way to play this?

okerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1630)
UTG (t1050)
UTG+1 (t1600)
MP1 (t1470)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1120)
CO (t540)
Button (t3120)
SB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t120</font>, Hero calls t80.

Turn: (t300) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150.

River: (t600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350.

Final Pot: t1300
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:20 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

I play it the same. I swear 2/3 of the time you're good here.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

For one if your playing a 114 i shouldnt be replying but here goes

you lead makes sesne, reraise to me means a pair between 66-JJ (60%) or slow played KK or AA from the SB (10%) flopped an open ended str8 draw (5,7 or 3,5) (30%) atleast thats my range of hands

I guess the 7 ont he turn could be trouble to complete a str8 draw and the 10 on the river has to be a blank (unless he held 10,10)
*personally i just fold the flop b/c i hate being placed in a tough situation w/ tp weak K (but thats prob why i run 20 S&amp;G's ) - I def fold by the turn cause i'm scccrddd
whats the range of hands you think he could have?

(great hand post)
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

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I play it the same. I swear 2/3 of the time you're good here.

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He described villain as a very good 2+2'er. I swear you are not good here 2/3 of the time. He isn't slowing down. He is building the pot, not trying to keep it small. You are very often in trouble here, even if it is only kicker trouble. What do you put a good villain on here?

I would seriously consider folding the turn. But might let my curiosity get to me and call down. There are very few top pair hands you beat, and do we really think villain use this line with a weak made hand or air?
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

Well I missed that too. I need to pay more attention. But you're still good here enough of the time to call. He might have you on a draw. He's not betting enough to push you out, which either means he has a monster or is just hoping you have a busted draw. I don't see how you can lay down the river for 350.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:39 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

If you get to the river I guess it is a call. You should probably decide on the turn wether you feel top pair no kicker is good enough or not. He isn't betting to push you out there either.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

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If you get to the river I guess it is a call. You should probably decide on the turn wether you feel top pair no kicker is good enough or not. He isn't betting to push you out there either.

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I have an OESD on the turn as well. I thought about jamming there FWIW.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

Right, no way you're folding the turn.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

I would be curious to know who villain is and what he had.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $114) - TPBK in the Blinds

Dang. Missed that. In the heat of the moment I think I call the river here 90% of the time. But looking at this hand I have a very hard time putting villain on a hand we beat? Exactly what do we think he has here?

Jamming the turn isn't too bad, since villain is definitly capable of laying down QJ/QT kind of hands. But it might be a little too much risk for the 450 in the pot, and we will feel extremly silly when he calls us.
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