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Old 10-06-2007, 04:13 PM
Double Eagle Double Eagle is offline
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Default I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

Villain is GR33D, he's a tag with tricks and I was not that surprised to see him raise this turn and instantly wished I had checked it to him. My hand is usually best but very very vulnerable and when it's not I'm crushed. I am clueless on how to proceed here. Ideas?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $198
BB: $205.55
UTG: $200
Hero (MP): $900.50
CO: $423.20
BTN: $197

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls $12

Turn: ($43) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $70</font>, Hero pukes.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

Minraise and hope he shoves!
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

FFS... i hate this spot...

I probably just call. I don't know if he calls a raise with worse.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

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FFS... i hate this spot...

I probably just call. I don't know if he calls a raise with worse.

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The turn call isn't the issue, there's now 180 in the pot on the river and approximately half the deck is gonna be scary.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

not sure why your scared of like any rivers. Call turn, call river, he's bluffing
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:40 PM
Etats360 Etats360 is offline
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

What is his river AF? Will he vbet AT if a draw gets there on river? how likely is he to bluff river with a missed draw?

I think his range here is AT, ThXh, 45, or spades (which obviously include AsXs), being weighted heavily towards the former two. Most tags pop the flop this deep with a set.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:47 PM
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not sure why your scared of like any rivers. Call turn, call river, he's bluffing

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so are you playing Ad2d the same way?
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:48 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Turn: ($43) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $70</font>, Hero pukes.

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WTF. Why isn't it "Hero pumps fist"?

Seriously, if you are this scared of playing deep just get up. Villain's going to use this as a scare card a TON. He's bluffing a lot here.
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

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Turn: ($43) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $70</font>, Hero pukes.

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WTF. Why isn't it "Hero pumps fist"?

Seriously, if you are this scared of playing deep just get up. Villain's going to use this as a scare card a TON. He's bluffing a lot here.

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Ok, so hero 3 bets? Calls and calls any river?
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:55 PM
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call and make a decision on the river
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