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Old 08-25-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

Suppose you have a terminal cancer which isn't painful at all, in fact you don't even notice it and then at some point you drop dead without the slightest suffering.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

I voted for truth (well actually I clicked the wrong button, so take one off healthy and add one to truth). Supporting the lie implies that in the instance I don't acquire a terminal illness and the doctor tells me I'm good to go, I will always have some doubt.

I'd prefer to know I'm safe when I'm safe even if it means knowing I'm a goner when I'm a goner. I don't think you can have one without the other.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

If you could know your ultimate demise...
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

I realize this has been common practice in some places in the past, but I would imagine that the USA currently, it would open up the doctor to a lawsuit too much.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

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I would agree with that. In med school, I don't recall being taught to hide info as it would be fairly rare for a person to not want to know. But we do spend a lot of time in learning HOW to break bad news...
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

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I realize this has been common practice in some places in the past, but I would imagine that the USA currently, it would open up the doctor to a lawsuit too much.

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I would agree with that. In med school, I don't recall being taught to hide info as it would be fairly rare for a person to not want to know. But we do spend a lot of time in learning HOW to break bad news...

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I'd feel a lot better about a doctor if they'd just say: "yea, you have blah, and you're going to die unless you have any great ideas that we haven't thought of yet. I'm sorry about that."
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

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I realize this has been common practice in some places in the past, but I would imagine that the USA currently, it would open up the doctor to a lawsuit too much.

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I would agree with that. In med school, I don't recall being taught to hide info as it would be fairly rare for a person to not want to know. But we do spend a lot of time in learning HOW to break bad news...

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I can envision some pretty complicated situations where chances of recovery are correlated strongly with the patient's emotional state. Say the drug treatment you were giving your patient was much more effective when given to people with low stress levels. Do you lie to them about their chances at living/drug effectiveness in this scenario, where it would actually maximize their chances of making it?

My personal feelings are that doctors are way too deified. I view them basically as glorified mechanics. I'm paying my doctor to render me a service, and I'm going to be pissed if he takes matters into his own hands because of some holier-than-though, paternalistic reasoning.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

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I realize this has been common practice in some places in the past, but I would imagine that the USA currently, it would open up the doctor to a lawsuit too much.

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I would agree with that. In med school, I don't recall being taught to hide info as it would be fairly rare for a person to not want to know. But we do spend a lot of time in learning HOW to break bad news...

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Try this: The good news, sir, is that your outrageous medical bills are coming to an end; the bad news is you're about to die.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

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I realize this has been common practice in some places in the past, but I would imagine that the USA currently, it would open up the doctor to a lawsuit too much.

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I would agree with that. In med school, I don't recall being taught to hide info as it would be fairly rare for a person to not want to know. But we do spend a lot of time in learning HOW to break bad news...

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Try this: The good news, sir, is that your outrageous medical bills are coming to an end; the bad news is you're about to die.

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"Good news is that you have Alzheimer's and you won't even remember this conversation..."
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: Would you like your doctor to lie to you if you had cancer?

A teacher I had in high school who was getting close to retirement and talked about his family history of brain aneurysms.

He liked the idea of getting a cup of coffee one day and (if he did in fact have one) it rupturing and then quickly dying.

Knowing or not knowing wouldn't change how I lived my life.
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