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#12
03-24-2007, 07:23 PM
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Re: NL - Continuation bet with a draw
of course u have to bet .
first if u dont bet and u get ur flush how much will u win? second if he just call maybe with a pair the middle or the third (i think he should raise with top pair) u know that if a high card comes and the turn he will chek again and giving u your odds ,because his call at the flop means that ge put you on 2 high cards so a high card can only scared him. third if u dont do a continuation bet in this case, when will u do a continuation bet ? u have the avantage of beeing the preflop agressor and u know that the flop help ur opponents only 33 percent of the time (for getting at least a pair ) fourth dont try to use the harrington tournament play in that case because in tournament not loossing chips are more important than winning chips . 
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#14
03-24-2007, 10:51 PM
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Re: NL - Continuation bet with a draw
It depends who is in the hand with me.
Some villains love to check-raise with TP, even TPWK, as well as with some draws to snap off a cb. Versus a guy like this, I take the free card. Some villains are playing strictly fit or fold. They won't call a cb with any less than TPWK, and c-r thier top two pairs or better. They also don't c-r with draws. Versus these very straight forward players, I cb. Even if he calls with a top pair hand, he will be OOP and possibly have a river draw to a nut flush for me to get another bet in on the turn where he may not believe I made my flush since I bet the flop. Some villains are calling stations on the flop with any piece of the flop or any draw, but they get spooked on later streets for larger bets. Some get particularly spooked on the river. So vs these villains, a 3/4 pot cb might be good since he will fold with nothing and call with any number of hands that I might be able to bluff him off of on the turn and/or river. Some villains are complete calling stations who will call on all streets for too much money with bottom two-pair, TPWK, or even 2nd pair if he suspects a "steal." Versus this type of player, I would take a free card and value bet only if I hit. At that point, I would value bet a little more than I might otherwise to make it look like I'm stealing to try and get him to call for a little extra. I'm probably missing some other types, but these are some the kinds of guys with exploitable habbits that I play with at my local card room.
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#17
03-25-2007, 06:25 AM
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Re: NL - Continuation bet with a draw
Found a topic in NLHETAP which is "Betting yourself off a Hand".
That solves your problem a little bit. The main hints here are whether check behind or semi-bluffing is better. You should read this section.
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#18
03-25-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: NL - Continuation bet with a draw
I bet you harrington bets that flop the vast majority of the time in tournaments.
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#19
03-25-2007, 12:22 PM
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Re: NL - Continuation bet with a draw
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How would it be hard to get away from your hand? If the odds are good, play. If not, fold. [/ QUOTE ] I see a lot of you fall for this argument. But it seems as if you consider that because you made a mistake earlier in the hand and now you have odds to play, then the earlier mistake wasn't a mistake. But that's not the way it goes. You need odds on your continuation bet plus your call or re-raise after he check/raises. If the sum of the expectation from those two exceeds the positive expectation of checking, you bet.
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#20
03-25-2007, 12:26 PM
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Re: NL - Continuation bet with a draw
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Bottom line, there are no hard and fast rules. It is situation dependent. You just have to play poker. [/ QUOTE ] But there are hard rules. Of course extreme situations require extreme adaptation, and if you feel like adding that up, please do so. But your reply isn't productive.
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