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Old 02-08-2006, 09:25 PM
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So we've made a mad dash from 2 full tables to 2 tables of 5 handed play, ready to merge to the final table. Yes we're in the money. I'm the shorty but feel my stack still retains some fold equity, albeit not for long. This is the 2nd hand dealt while being 5 handed. The first went similarly with a raise and an all in reraise that won the pot preflop. I was not involved in that hand.

Is there anybody who doesn't get all the chips in here and if so what's your line to avoid it?

Also curious to hear who likes a stop n go better than a preflop push here.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP (t34389)
Button (t30956)
SB (t22063)
Hero (t10390)
UTG (t18027)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t10315</font>, UTG calls t7915.

Flop: (t20855) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t20855) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t20855) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t20855

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9s 9c (two pair, nines and threes).
UTG has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: UTG wins t20855. </font>
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

Allin, every time, no questions.
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Old 02-09-2006, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble Hand

easy push
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:27 AM
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easy push

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I agree. Was wondering if there would be any dissenters, or even some stop n go fans but apparently not.
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:42 AM
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this is no easy push. UTG min raises you can just call i dont like this but still an option. I myself would fold. your not beating that many hands and you can pick a better a spot. you have an M of a litte over 5. To me this means that you still have some time. granted its 5 handed still I believe you can pick a better spot.
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:44 AM
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Call me crazy but I do not see folding as an option whatsoever. I don't dislike a stop n go, but I prefer a push. Anybody else?
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:48 AM
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i missed that you were on the BB. in this case i believe calling is a must but i still dont like pushing.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:04 PM
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push unless you've seen him minraise with a monster before. Stopngo is bad because you still have a lot of fold equity. He could very easily have QT or something and would fold to a push. Or he could have Q4 and you'd want to get the money in preflop. Push.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:18 PM
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I like the stop'n'go here or just calling and reevaluate after the flop, but at 5 handed, 99 is pretty strong, I'm guessing I push and pray. Folding is not an option. My reads on Villian here would also play a huge factor on what I do. If he's a LAG I push for sure, TAG, maybe I just call.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:31 PM
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So we've made a mad dash from 2 full tables to 2 tables of 5 handed play, ready to merge to the final table. Yes we're in the money. I'm the shorty but feel my stack still retains some fold equity, albeit not for long. This is the 2nd hand dealt while being 5 handed. The first went similarly with a raise and an all in reraise that won the pot preflop. I was not involved in that hand.

Is there anybody who doesn't get all the chips in here and if so what's your line to avoid it?

Also curious to hear who likes a stop n go better than a preflop push here.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP (t34389)
Button (t30956)
SB (t22063)
Hero (t10390)
UTG (t18027)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t10315</font>, UTG calls t7915.

Flop: (t20855) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t20855) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t20855) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t20855

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9s 9c (two pair, nines and threes).
UTG has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: UTG wins t20855. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

I was getting ready to flame you for reraising with 99, then i realized your stack size. IMO, this is standard with 99 and your stack size. Any lower pairs, I might wait until i could be the first one in the pot, but right now you are ahead of any unpaired hands and more than half the pocket pairs (only 5 pp's better than yours).
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