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Old 08-23-2006, 12:56 PM
BigDan9 BigDan9 is offline
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Default Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

I still haven't found a hand converter for Pacific but the situation is easy to explain:

5/10, ten-handed. Players of varying calibre round the table, but (although no useful stats as yet) MP+2 and CO seem to be solid, if conventional, players.

All fold to me in MP+1. I raise with AJos (which I would occasionally call with, for variety). MP+2 re-raises, CO caps, everyone else folds and I, in terrible position with a very average hand, decide calling here is an -EV play and fold. Is that an absolutely ridiculous view to take?!
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

Folding, out-of-position, against two seemingly solid players who've 3-bet and capped is fine.

Occassionally calling with AJ, in MP, "for variety" - sucks big time.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

i thought this was pretty standard? i'd fold AJs too.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

mmm, that last raise prolly should have given you as good clue someone had you out kicked, but maybe if you hit two pair people are gonna keep betting when they hit with a,k.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

I would definitely fold. A,Jo in MP isn't a hand I would want to be calling 2 more bets with. I probably wouldn't raise with it to begin with, but I think I may play tighter than most.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

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I probably wouldn't raise with it to begin with

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What would you do with it?
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

Folding AJo after it is capped behing you should be standard play with the capital S.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

Standard
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Old 08-23-2006, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

Good Raise, Good Fold. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-23-2006, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Raising then folding AJ pre-flop - pathetic or heroic?

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I probably wouldn't raise with it to begin with

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What would you do with it?

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Well I realize I may be in the minority here but I would just call in that situation. I can understand wanting to raise to chase out others behind you, but in MP+1 I would still be worried about having numerous people behind me still yet to act. If I was in LP or on the button and it hadn't been raised I would definitely raise it up. Also, if it were suited I would probably raise in that spot. I just don't like the offsuitedness of the hand. In no way am I saying it's the "right" play, but that's typically how I play it. As I said though, I consider myself a very tight player.
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