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[El Diablo]

RR,

"If there are fewer bans I think the ones that are made need to be permanent."

You are smart.

[RR]

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You are smart

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I thought this was obvious. On a possibly realted note I believe I am the longest posting 2+2er that isn't Mason, David, or Ray.

[Ryan Beal]

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it doesn't seem fair to me to criticize mods for coming up with policies to deal with that ambiguity.

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I had an opinion so I spoke up. Often I stay quiet because I don't want my personal views to get in the way of my role as an administrator. I'm also not trying to be critical. As I've stated several times in this thread the purpose behind starting it was not to have the discussion we're having now.

Mods coming up with their own rules is still fine too. Just because I've never liked that method doesn't mean I necessarily think it's bad. Also, trying to create less ambiguity while keeping the above intact is its own puzzle.

[NT!]

yeah more or less what diablo said. i know it is just an opinion and i am not being asked to specifically do anything, but i also know that when i keep hearing stuff like that every month or so that seems to go around in circles and doesn't really address the underlying issues, i just listen to it a little bit less each time. and that's not really good for anybody.

[Ryan Beal]

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i also know that when i keep hearing stuff like that every month or so that seems to go around in circles and doesn't really address the underlying issues, i just listen to it a little bit less each time. and that's not really good for anybody.

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I've attempted to address the underlying issues here, although I may not have done so to everyone's satisfaction. Otherwise we're in complete agreement about that. I don't want to have to bring up something similar again either.

But to be perfectly honest, yes, if things don't change on some level sooner or later new rules may be required. I haven't gotten to the point that I would seriously consider that yet and it's outside the idea for this thread.

[NT!]

if by addressing the underlying issues you mean the software switch, then yeah, i agree, i think that gets to a lot of this stuff and we will def make it work.

[Ryan Beal]

I was referring to that and any other underlying issues.

EDIT - The point here was to put these ideas out there. I understand people will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm pretty focused on vB so don't get concerned with drastic new policies being around the corner either. I'd much rather you guys be excited about the options you'll have than getting down about this or that. I am.

[Mat Sklansky]

what am i being left out on here?

what underlying issues? are you two having an affair?

[Ryan Beal]

Look, it's really just for the best to keep our personal lives out of this.

[Mat Sklansky]

answer the number question in jim's thread then