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Old 11-24-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default do you lay this one down?

no reads - early in the tourney

what do you think?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1400)
MP2 (t1480)
CO (t3120)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1490)
BB (t1480)
Hero (t1380)
UTG+1 (t3180)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of t20.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, BB calls t10, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: (t120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t120) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, MP1 calls t200, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1460</font>, Hero ???

Final Pot: t720
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

Something wrong with the converter - are you UTG or BB, or have a split personality?
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

lets say the converter is right and you are UTG, with BB all in:
I would have raised more on the turn, anyways since you didn't I think you can get away from this hand pretty easily. It looks like a BB special here, probably with a better 2 pair than your bottom 2, he's 3 betting all in, trying to fold flush and straight draws. It's early in the tournament, your not pot committed, and I can't see BB 3 betting with anything less than 2 pair.
This is also in agreement with his flop play, checking into a bunch of opponents looking to trap, since it didn't work, the turn brought straight and flush draws so he led out. Either that or he caught a straight on the turn.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

easy fold
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

i call it but im not thrilled
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

I definitely feel comfortable folding this.

Its a limped pot and his range is large because he checked from the BB.

You basically have nothing in his range beat that he would 3 bet all-in with.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

Check BB's OPR at this pt. If he's a winning player, he has &gt; 1 pair here always. If he sucks, he could be overplaying a T here...but you're prob beat here a lot.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

in that spot on the turn, assuming that BB is actually SB and you are the BB (if you are really UTG, then i wouldnt be playing the hand in the first place), i would raise to somethin gmore like 300 and then easily release to a shove

unraised multi-way pot allows him to come in from SB cheaply with a huge range or check anything from his BB, he could have been checking a monstrous flop to set a trap, and after leading into you 3/4 pot and then overbet shoving your raise, i feel like there's no way you can call this w/ bottom two. if he's at least a decent player then a flush draw is the least likely of his possible hands here (apart from a bluff/straight draw/single pair), imo.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: do you lay this one down?

lay it down..probably floped two bigger pr 6s&amp;9s or 5s&amp;6s or flopped a set.
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