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Old 11-10-2007, 02:39 AM
wet work wet work is offline
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

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Pokerstars, Full Tilt, Ultimate Bet etc. will never compete on rake. Lets just say there yearly profits are $300million with $3 per pot rake. If you cut it to $2, profits are down to $200, $1 profits are down to $100 million etc. Theyll never compete on rake.

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Why not create a $4 per pot site. Actually treat people like human beings. Some flowery BS marketing about how we are the best of the best. Blah, blah, blah. We'll all be RICH!
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:45 AM
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It's time for people to start complaining and do something about it. Casual poker players are paying $10,000+ a year to
play cards, because this is their hobby. The amount of money poker players pay to play poker is WRONG. It's morally wrong.

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Tuff Fish gimmick account?
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

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Yes, this is a fine post with good points. So why does no one play on WSEX? Why are you not playing there? People are dumb, the sites get rich, nothing will change. GG.

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Some very knowledgable people here have mentioned why. Marketing is one, player pool is another, competition as a result of a small player pool is a killer. You need a lot of less skilled players or you just won't win much, or not at all.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:19 AM
IWINORIDIE IWINORIDIE is offline
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:47 AM
doodydota doodydota is offline
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

I rather play at pokerstars and pay the rake than play at WPX, because at WPX there are no fish. Fish don't care if the rake is 0%, 10% or 50%. They lose money anyway. Only winning players do care.

I pay the rake for smooth software, a timebank and the fishpond that pokerstars provides by advertising their site.
You can consider the rake as a fee for a service.

A 2+2 pokersite? "Come play where the sharks are going to eat you alive".
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

When did they start taking a rake?
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

internet poker is nowhere near the cannibal that live casino crook operated poker is
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:12 AM
LGs0pHT LGs0pHT is offline
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

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I rather play at pokerstars and pay the rake than play at WPX, because at WPX there are no fish. Fish don't care if the rake is 0%, 10% or 50%. They lose money anyway. Only winning players do care.

I pay the rake for smooth software, a timebank and the fishpond that pokerstars provides by advertising their site.
You can consider the rake as a fee for a service.

A 2+2 pokersite? "Come play where the sharks are going to eat you alive".

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No! The "Chat and play with the pros" campaign worked as well. Why not advertise "Chat and play with the real pros".
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:46 AM
Max Raker Max Raker is offline
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Default Re: The house takes all the money.

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"So...what do you want us to do about it?"

Come up with a plan for us to create a new site that is owned by a bunch of young wealthy poker players, we all put up money for it. And we promote it like crazy. A tons of young pros, 2+2ers, everyone wearing T-shirts at all the big telivised tournaments, in cardrooms around the country etc.


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Yeah! And then for the service we are providing we can take a small bit out of ever pot...
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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internet poker is nowhere near the cannibal that live casino crook operated poker is

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Agreed.

In Holland Casino, the group of casinos that have the monopoly on live poker for money in the Netherlands, rake is 10% in the lower stakes games, 5% in the higher stakes games.

Rake caps of €15 and €20 ($21/$28)

Robbers!
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