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08-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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Moving up... stats check.
Okay, well I've made enough to move up to 50NL, but I thought I would post my stats to see if there is any major flaws/leaks I should be worried that would keep me from staying on this track one level up. I'm thinking that I play a little too tight and passive, especially on the turn and river, and that I don't raise enough/play too many hands in early position. Thoughts?
BTW, yeah, yeah, I know there are some FR stats... sorry, I play both. Kill me.   
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#2
08-30-2007, 12:22 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
I think a solid TAG strategy works best at NL50, so if you are between 15 and 18 VPIP, that is a good range.
Raise more preflop - a PF raise percentage that is half of your VPIP is too small IMO. Also, try to get your turn and river AF a bit higher. If your total agression factor gets to about 3, I think that is a good solid number
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#3
08-31-2007, 12:18 AM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
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I think a solid TAG strategy works best at NL50, so if you are between 15 and 18 VPIP, that is a good range. Raise more preflop - a PF raise percentage that is half of your VPIP is too small IMO. Also, try to get your turn and river AF a bit higher. If your total agression factor gets to about 3, I think that is a good solid number [/ QUOTE ] Why are these solid numbers? honestly I think people heard AF 3 and 18/16 is gold but never really thought why this would be good at microstakes.
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#4
08-31-2007, 12:39 AM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
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[ QUOTE ] I think a solid TAG strategy works best at NL50, so if you are between 15 and 18 VPIP, that is a good range. Raise more preflop - a PF raise percentage that is half of your VPIP is too small IMO. Also, try to get your turn and river AF a bit higher. If your total agression factor gets to about 3, I think that is a good solid number [/ QUOTE ] Why are these solid numbers? honestly I think people heard AF 3 and 18/16 is gold but never really thought why this would be good at microstakes. [/ QUOTE ] When you're going to disagree with something that has been working very well for people you generally need to supply the reasons why you disagree...not the other way around. 90+% of the larger winning players in this forum could send you their stats and it would be similar to those numbers. I'm about 20/17.5/3.5 ~5.7 over my last 72,000 hands I don't know exactly what it is but I know I'm over 4.2 over my last 120,000 hands or so. Probably leaks but not too bad.
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#5
08-31-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think a solid TAG strategy works best at NL50, so if you are between 15 and 18 VPIP, that is a good range. Raise more preflop - a PF raise percentage that is half of your VPIP is too small IMO. Also, try to get your turn and river AF a bit higher. If your total agression factor gets to about 3, I think that is a good solid number [/ QUOTE ] Why are these solid numbers? honestly I think people heard AF 3 and 18/16 is gold but never really thought why this would be good at microstakes. [/ QUOTE ] When you're going to disagree with something that has been working very well for people you generally need to supply the reasons why you disagree...not the other way around. 90+% of the larger winning players in this forum could send you their stats and it would be similar to those numbers. I'm about 20/17.5/3.5 ~5.7 over my last 72,000 hands I don't know exactly what it is but I know I'm over 4.2 over my last 120,000 hands or so. Probably leaks but not too bad. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not really too high on the "your stats have to be X, X, and X" mentality. Unless there is a serious reason why your stats need to be that way, I don't buy it. Most people just see someone else's stats, see they're winning, and assume you have to have those stats to win.
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#6
08-31-2007, 02:06 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
how many tables do you play?
i think ur a little to nitty i like my stats to be like 21/18 but ur style is winning albeit a small sample so if thats what ur comfortable with than by all means stick to it but keep in mind that style will no longer be profitable as you progress in limits and come across better players. 6k hands means absolutely nothing. i have lost 20 buy ins before in 6k hands and im a winning player so i deff wouldnt move up until u have 25-30k hands.
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#7
08-31-2007, 02:21 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think a solid TAG strategy works best at NL50, so if you are between 15 and 18 VPIP, that is a good range. Raise more preflop - a PF raise percentage that is half of your VPIP is too small IMO. Also, try to get your turn and river AF a bit higher. If your total agression factor gets to about 3, I think that is a good solid number [/ QUOTE ] Why are these solid numbers? honestly I think people heard AF 3 and 18/16 is gold but never really thought why this would be good at microstakes. [/ QUOTE ] When you're going to disagree with something that has been working very well for people you generally need to supply the reasons why you disagree...not the other way around. 90+% of the larger winning players in this forum could send you their stats and it would be similar to those numbers. I'm about 20/17.5/3.5 ~5.7 over my last 72,000 hands I don't know exactly what it is but I know I'm over 4.2 over my last 120,000 hands or so. Probably leaks but not too bad. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not really too high on the "your stats have to be X, X, and X" mentality. Unless there is a serious reason why your stats need to be that way, I don't buy it. Most people just see someone else's stats, see they're winning, and assume you have to have those stats to win. [/ QUOTE ] Warhammer, you'll be fine .. good luck mate (and 18/16 with an AF of only 3 .... now that is meh,but it is all about balance, but if you have a good balance, practically every vpip up to at LEAST 30 can be played at any level)
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#8
08-30-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
Your vpip/pfr gap is a wee bit large to my taste, but ok you make money
What strikes me is that you can see that your Won$WSF is a bit on the low side ... this might easily be linked to the high vpip gap .... BUT ! You Won$@SD is very high, so basically that is happening is that you are seeing a lot of cheap flops but getting paid off big when you hit. At some point, you are going to get punished for this approach, but whether that will happen at 50NL is another thing ... hehe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#9
08-30-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
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Your vpip/pfr gap is a wee bit large to my taste, but ok you make money What strikes me is that you can see that your Won$WSF is a bit on the low side ... this might easily be linked to the high vpip gap .... BUT ! You Won$@SD is very high, so basically that is happening is that you are seeing a lot of cheap flops but getting paid off big when you hit. At some point, you are going to get punished for this approach, but whether that will happen at 50NL is another thing ... hehe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That's a good point, and I didn't even think of that. I have a feeling I will get destroyed at either 100NL or 200NL (assuming I make it that far) if I don't change that, but I might be okay at 50NL. I don't think I'll be able to see nearly as many flops as cheaply as I have at those levels.
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#10
08-30-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: Moving up... stats check.
Destroyed is perhaps a bit on the dramatic side, but as you move up, it does become a fight for the initiative, so passively splashing around becomes more and more turbulent and difficult ... but don't be afraid of higher stakes, 100NL is not where you encounter aba and cts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
GL Warhammer [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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