2more ppl out then I am in the money. right play with AKo here?

[Anycall]

2ppl left till bubble bursts. I have more than avg chip stack. just got moved to this table so zero reads.

I want to accumulate chips because I wanna get deep into the tourn and I am not much concerned about making the money. what worries me, however, is that the big stack 3bet UTG raise. He is likely to be very strong but I have AK! lol.

In all seriousness, what would be the play with the most EV in the long run in this spot. If I push and get called, I am likely to be flipping, sometimes chopping, and sometimes crushed. Is this a bad spot to get into just b4 the money? even though I stated that I am not much concerned about making the money, the fact that we are almost in the money greatly affects our calculation of EV right? Also, do we have ANY fold equity in this spot? My push would look extremely strong. would good pairs like 88-TT fold if you were the big stack?


Poker Stars, $50 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: 41,464
Hero (SB): 23,828
BB: 12,422
UTG: 15,862
UTG+1: 7,076
UTG+2: 33,195
MP1: 71,169
MP2: 8,527
CO: 7,993

Pre-Flop: (2,400) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to 3,000</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to 9,000</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero???

[brad2002tj]

Raise and reraise...ugh. You would probably at least be on the dumb end of a coin flip. I hate this spot but probably push and pray.

[BarryLyndon]

These stacks are way too shallow to not be getting it in with AK here. UTG's range = 1010+; AJ+. He could fold to a 3-bet from a bigger stack. MP2's range is admittedly smaller: JJ+; AK. With the 3K already in + your stack + the pot, you need to get it in, gamble. If you win, you are well on your way to the FT.

Barry

[deankeaton7]

I think that range is way too tight for MP2. You see AJ, AQ, smaller pairs here too. UTG only has 15k. Either way, its a push.

[BarryLyndon]

You're friend is a vagine.

Tell him that if you aren't getting it in with AK in spots like this, then you will be forever sitting indian position near the money bubble with your nuts hanging in the wind while others advance to where the real money is - the FT. You don't enter into tournaments to guarantee a marginal return on your investment. You enter in so you can achieve a massive win so that when you lose the next 15 or 20, you have profit left over.

Barry

[DeuceSeven]

What about the idea that players tighten up close to the bubble. Can we put players on a tighter range? I don't care about moving up into the money, but I like to pick better spots. Obviously my opinion changes as the buy in gets smaller. After some thought, although I don't like this spot with ~24 bbs I can't see not putting all my chips in.

[ssnyc]

[ QUOTE ]
You're friend is a vagine.

Tell him that if you aren't getting it in with AK in spots like this, then you will be forever sitting indian position near the money bubble with your nuts hanging in the wind while others advance to where the real money is - the FT. You don't enter into tournaments to guarantee a marginal return on your investment. You enter in so you can achieve a massive win so that when you lose the next 15 or 20, you have profit left over.

Barry

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perfect explaination written in fluid barryesque

[authority11]

[ QUOTE ]
You're friend is a vagine.

Tell him that if you aren't getting it in with AK in spots like this, then you will be forever sitting indian position near the money bubble with your nuts hanging in the wind while others advance to where the real money is - the FT. You don't enter into tournaments to guarantee a marginal return on your investment. You enter in so you can achieve a massive win so that when you lose the next 15 or 20, you have profit left over.

Barry

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ROFL. I liked how he added the actual type of sitting position.

And ya, I'm pretty much insta-sticking it in there. You're getting sick odds. These are the types of hands that either have you heading to the rail or coasting to the FT. Sometimes you get there and sometimes you don't. The very essence of MTT variance ;p

[ssnyc]

hero pushes and is happy

[brad2002tj]

I had this same scenario pop up a few days ago. MP1 had AA but UTG sucked us both out with TT when he hit a set. I was still happy with my push.