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Old 07-29-2007, 01:36 PM
Uniqueuponhim Uniqueuponhim is offline
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Default NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

Villain has been being extremely laggy, has already busted once with bottom pair, and has been either minbetting or betting pot virtually every chance he's had. Based on this, is calling here worth it or should I wait for a better spot?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($4.95)
Button ($17.45)
SB ($10.20)
BB ($5.70)
Hero ($12.50)
UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($3.40)
MP2 ($10.25)
MP3 ($12.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.10, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($0.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.3</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG+1 folds, CO folds.

River: ($1.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $9.8 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $-8.70
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

easy river fold.

I fold on the turn there to most of the time. This is a situation where your going to win the minimum when your ahead and lose the max if your behind.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

Easy fold. You're almost always behind an overbet this big here.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

I'd just like to reiterate that villain has already stacked off once with bottom pair. Obviously I still agree with you that it's a fold, but that fact did make it not so easy a choice for me.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

How did he stack off though? He shoved river with bottom pair or called down? Fold this unless he shoves river with ATC.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

Half calling off and half being stupidly aggro with nothing.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($1.95)
BB ($10)
UTG ($7.90)
UTG+1 ($5.65)
Hero ($12.35)
MP2 ($4.90)
CO ($4)
Button ($13.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($0.95) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3.8</font>, UTG calls $2.85.

Turn: ($8.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.7 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $1.80.

River: ($15.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
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Final Pot: $15.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 6c 6d (two pair, sevens and sixes).
UTG has 5c Ac (two pair, sevens and fives).
Outcome: BB wins $15.95. </font>
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

lol
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

[ QUOTE ]
Half calling off and half being stupidly aggro with nothing.

[/ QUOTE ]In before river, totally different.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

Remember you only have 40c invested in the pot. The pot is small, his bet is massive to fold. Even against a maniac there are better spots.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: NL10 Villain pushes allin for 9x pot

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Remember you only have 40c invested in the pot. The pot is small, his bet is massive to fold. Even against a maniac there are better spots.

[/ QUOTE ]
That's pretty much why I folded, I just couldn't help but feel like I was throwing away $10 by folding. Then again it's equally likely I would have been throwing away $10 by calling.
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