**Fantasy Basketball Advice Thread**

[BobboFitos]

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Whats my play? I can't change the veto system, and I feel like this is ruining the league.

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should've given yourself sole power. in fantasy sports, dictatorship > democracy

[Franchise 60]

PG - Arenas
SG - Monta Ellis
G - Devon Harris
Sf - Mike Miller
pf - Rashard Lewis
f- Josh Howard
c- Camby
c -

[Franchise 60]

12 teams, 9 cat h2h

PG - Arenas
SG - Monta Ellis
G - Devon Harris
Sf - Mike Miller
pf - Rashard Lewis
f- Josh Howard
c- Camby
c- Sean Williams/Darko/Theo Ratliff
Util - Grant Hill
Util - Luis Scola
bnch - Bonzi Wells, Bibby

Was offered David West/Ricky Davis for Mike Miller/Grant Hill.

Thoughts?

[kidcolin]

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Whats my play? I can't change the veto system, and I feel like this is ruining the league.

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should've given yourself sole power. in fantasy sports, dictatorship > democracy

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It's even worse. It's not even democracy. Just takes 4 votes.

You really boned this one, Franchise. I would tell the league to stop being a bunch of [censored] and I'd quit if it keeps up.

[MCS]

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Whats my play? I can't change the veto system, and I feel like this is ruining the league.

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Ask people who vetoed reasonable trades why they vetoed them.

[cellobob]

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Whats my play? I can't change the veto system, and I feel like this is ruining the league.

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Ask people who vetoed reasonable trades why they vetoed them.

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How much power have you actually ceded? In my Yahoo league I have the ability to lock/edit rosters, add/drop players from any team. I don't know if changing to league votes changes this. If you do have this power it is possible to force trades through. Of course that should only be a last resort.

You need to tell anyone vetoing a trade to post why they are doing so, and if they don't then more extreme measures may be taken.

There is really no good solution at this point though as this basically amounts to changing the rules midstream which is a big no-no. It's up to you to decide what is best for the health of the league.

[sethypooh21]

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Was offered David West/Ricky Davis for Mike Miller/Grant Hill.

Thoughts?

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Fist pump?

[West]

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I'm the commish in one of my leasgues, which is a Yahoo league with 12 teams. I made the mistake of going with the ability to veto trades, assuming it wouldn't be a problem. It only takes 4 votes to veto a trade and it seems as if a block of players are just veto'ing every trade because they have good teams.

7 out of 8 trades proposed have been vetoed. Multiple people have written league messages complaining about the vetoes, and even after people started getting pissed the last two trades were vetoed: Dirk for Chris Paul, and Biedrins for Peja. Both trades were trades of need for each team and should have easily gone through.

Whats my play? I can't change the veto system, and I feel like this is ruining the league.

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The nice thing about ESPN (at least the pay leagues, not sure about free) is that they handle whether trades go through. You can "protest" any trade you don't think is fair and include your reasoning. ESPN then makes a decision on any trade that is protested. IMO they've always done a good job with their decisions (at least in basketball, don't know about other sports), although one year at the beginning of the season everything that got protested was getting vetoed by ESPN for some reason until they got their [censored] together and then started judging trades normally.

I'm in a Yahoo football league where we have the votes to veto thing, and the same thing has happened where no trades go through. Started because one owner got bitter when his rip off trade got vetoed, and started voting against other trades, but we also have guys who will vote against trades that are legit just because they'd rather they not happen.
I am the commish but I don't intervene other than to explain why I think a trade is fair or unfair, or to suggest how I think vetoing should be used. Next year though I may insist that we do the league somewhere where trade vetoing is not decided by the owner vote.

[MCS]

I'm commissioner and I just set it to "commissioner alone can veto trades." I plan to veto virtually nothing other than super-obvious collusion, which I have no concerns about happening anyway. We haven't had a single trade all year, so it's mostly irrelevant for us.

Oh and of course I will veto any trades that don't help me dramatically.

[Holybull]

Rate this trade (already happened):

Al Jefferson
Rashad Mccants

vs.

Tim Thomas
Ben Gordon