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View Poll Results: If Santana Moss doesn't play this week, who plays?
G. Jennings @ MIN 2 22.22%
Re. Williams vs HOU 7 77.78%
Ma. Clayton @ TEN 0 0%
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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I think the only way indy wins is if manning plays lights out ball like he did vs the pats in last years AFC championship game.



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Peyton Manning wasn't lights out vs the Pats in the AFC championship game.

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Some good examples of lights out Peyton would be payoff games against Denver.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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Welker didn't find some fountain of youth.

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wait, what? The Welker I'm thinking off is 26 yrs old, and in his 3rd season and had 67 receptions last year. Stokely had a career high of 24 receptions in 5 years before his big year in Indy. Not exactly a comparison I would make.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

Colts should sabotage the patriots communication system from the booth.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

This thread is so +EV for the entire sports forum.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:29 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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The Colts are allowing 269.5 yards per game TOTAL. Obviously a big part of that is clock control on offense, but that's still going to be important.

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It's not just clock control by the Colts, it's the pace of the other teams. Teams try to slow the game down as much as possible against the Colts. The fewer drives there are in the game, the more variance plays a factor and the better chance you have to beat them.

The Colts have just 58 drives against them this year, the third lowest total in the league (Jax and Denver tied with 56). Fewer drives = fewer raw yards. And since teams run the ball a lot against the Colts, it's no surprise they're allowing so few passing yards.

That's not to say that their defense is bad or overrated, it's still quite good, ranked 3rd against the pass in DVOA, 13th against the run and 6th overall. I'm just pointing out that raw yardage stats are misleading.

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The longer Peyton and company can keep Brady and Moss off the field, obviously the better.

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LOL the anti-Colts strategy being employed by the Colts.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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Over/Under: 57.

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Seriously, when was the last time an O/U in the NFL this high?

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Not including this year it's happened 7 times since 1990, and all of those since 2000

2000-7 ATL/STL - 59 (O w/ 74)
2000-9 STL/SF - 63 (U w/ 58)
2000-10 CAR/STL - 60 (U w/ 51)
2000-14 STL/CAR - 58 (U w/ 19 lol)
2001-16 IND/STL - 59 (P w/ 59)
2004-9 MIN/IND - 58 (O w/ 59)
2004-15 OAK/KC - 60 (O w/ 61)

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wow the linesmakers did a sick sick job on those last 3.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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Jason Campbell is "meh" so I'm not surprised the Skins didn't keep it closer by keeping up with the offense, but I am surprised that their defense played like that. They were ranked 5th against the run and 8th against the pass coming into the game.


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The Patriots performance against the Skins doesn't really say much IMO. The Skins offense is not good and facing a strong NE defense they were playing D all game.

The Skins D is being severely overrated. They hadn't played even a good offense yet this season.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:13 AM
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they are 4 point favorites ON THE ROAD which means like 7 or so on nuetral field. granted thats only a bettering line, but the betting line is a REAL GOOD indicator of overall teams strenghts.


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Puh-lease. The betting line is a real good indicator of public perception. It's designed to get maximal profit.

NE fan base >>>>>>>> Indy fan base
NE hype >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>> Indy hype

These things skew the line pretty heavily.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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they are 4 point favorites ON THE ROAD which means like 7 or so on nuetral field. granted thats only a bettering line, but the betting line is a REAL GOOD indicator of overall teams strenghts.


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Puh-lease. The betting line is a real good indicator of public perception. It's designed to get maximal profit.

NE fan base >>>>>>>> Indy fan base
NE hype >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>> Indy hype

These things skew the line pretty heavily.

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posts like this really highlight how dumb some people are
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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they are 4 point favorites ON THE ROAD which means like 7 or so on nuetral field. granted thats only a bettering line, but the betting line is a REAL GOOD indicator of overall teams strenghts.


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Puh-lease. The betting line is a real good indicator of public perception. It's designed to get maximal profit.

NE fan base >>>>>>>> Indy fan base
NE hype >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>> Indy hype

These things skew the line pretty heavily.

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LOL

the betting line (more specifically the closing line) is the best WIDELY AVAILABLE indicator of current team strength (accounting for location and injuries obv). PERIOD.

is it perfect? obviously not. is it better than anything else available within a google search? yes and its not close.
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