1/2 Turned Set w/ 77

[pennpal]

Just moved up yesterday, today I got myself into this mess.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed)
pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($442.60)
Button ($203.50)
SB ($197)
BB ($217)
UTG ($235.10)
Hero ($338.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO calls $8, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls $12.

Turn: ($43) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $26</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $52</font>, Hero calls $26.

River: ($147) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $122</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $266.5</font>


Bet more on flop and...

(results and my thoughts in white)

<font color="white"> Villain had Ks5s for the rivered flush. His line really confused me (pf call, float, minraise? wtf), and I thought there was value in shoving river because I'm not used to fd's making that turn minraise. Is it remotely standard at 1/2? Is the river as spewy as it looks to me now? Was there a better line for me to take?</font>

[Thremp]

Shove turn.

[allaboutmyfetti]

egad man, 3b/push that turn

[MortenTA]

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3b/push that turn

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[SirArthur]

Turn call is horrible. Big raise or push is only option. You're OOP &amp; so many horrible cards could fall for you on river.
While looking at hand the turn min raise did look to me as if he had a pair + flush draw. While probably not standard, it's certainly not uncommon at NL200.

As played, I would just call the river after you checked.

[pennpal]

I assumed we were too deep for a shove so I could cr river- there aren't many scare cards for me at this point and I thought it got more value out of marginal hands making a play. Why was this wrong (obv resultswise this was very wrong, but I'd like to hear it in more theoretical terms)

edit: ty arthur you basically answered my question before I asked it

[SirArthur]

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I assumed we were too deep for a shove so I could cr river- there aren't many scare cards for me at this point and I thought it got more value out of marginal hands making a play. Why was this wrong (obv resultswise this was very wrong, but I'd like to hear it in more theoretical terms)

edit: ty arthur you basically answered my question before I asked it

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As far as not c/r river all in. He's thrown out a large bet, shows me he's got the goods or it's a bluff, so you're obv. not getting called if he's bluffing so I don't see many lesser hands paying you off on this river.

That turn min-raise would open my eyes to him picking up a F/D or OESD in addition to a pair so like I said before there are many cards I wouldn't want to see on the river especially like the 5 of spades.
That's why you want to get as much in the pot as possible on the turn. Makes the river simple to play if you had done that.

[Praetor]

i def 3 ball the turn