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Old 11-21-2007, 11:17 PM
Sugar Nut Sugar Nut is offline
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Default $25NL KQs FD + 2OC\'s tough spot

Hi 2+2,
this is my first post here, although I've been reading quite a lot of this forum lately. I'm looking forward to becoming a better player through this excellent site.

Now to the hand:

Villain is new at the table so no reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($7.40)
UTG ($23.40)
UTG+1 ($24.35)
MP1 ($24.65)
MP2 ($20.90)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.75)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button (Villain) ($22.90)</font>
SB ($22.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, Button (Villain) calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1.

Pretty much standard up until now. However I don't like the coldcall from BU and being OOP.

Flop: ($4.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, Villain calls $3.50, MP2 folds.

Great Flop for me. I've got a FD and 2OC's, so I elect to continue my preflop aggression and try to make it look like an overpair protecting against the FD. Again I don't really like the call from him. Still OOP...

Turn: ($11.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20 (All-In)</font>, Villain calls $18.15 (All-In).

Now this is where I really didn't know what to do. I figure I got a really strong hand here, but what in the **** is he calling all the way with? I finally made up my mind that I will never fold this so I could aswell push all in directly to generate the last bit of FE I might have, since pretty much every bet I make would anyways commit myself to call his push.

River: ($47.40) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $47.40

Now is shoving here a mistake? Can I get away from this?

Thanks for comments and discussions.

Sugar Nut
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:24 AM
Berge20 Berge20 is offline
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Default Re: $25NL KQs FD + 2OC\'s tough spot

You have TP and a strong flush draw. No reason to push.

Bet 8-10ish, call a push if it happens. By shoving, you are allowing your opponent to play perfectly by folding his weaker holdings and only calling when you are behind.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:36 AM
Sugar Nut Sugar Nut is offline
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Default Re: $25NL KQs FD + 2OC\'s tough spot

Thanks for the reply. I thought about this also, but then I just seem to have an aversion against committing myself.

But in the end you're right of course, he will never call with a worse holding, except maybe A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], which I'm a 2,5:1 favorite against. Everything else he's calling with has me crushed (or at least down to max. 9 outs)

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